If Obama's father was a Kenyan then how could Hussein be eligible to be POTUS?

8/26/2009 | Kellynla

[kellynla]

If Obama's father was a Kenyan then how could Hussein be eligible to be POTUS?

[bgill]

“Because his mother’s citizenship, plus his birth within the United States conferred upon him citizenship at birth, therefore making him a natural-born citizen as opposed to one who was naturalized after birth.”

Wrong.

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/08/25/the-holy-grail-of-potus-eligibility-law-review-articles-mr-obama-and-mr-arthur-meet-attorney-george-collins/

http://people.mags.net/tonchen/birthers.htm

[mad_as_he$$]

Obama may not be President that is the point.

[stuartcr]

Very nice burn...

[bgill]

Please show us all where the Constitution defines all manners of citizenship.

[devistate one four]

Well, there you go.

[cynwoody]

simply find the section of the Constitution or the law that states that only those born of two U.S. citizen parents are “Natural Born Citizens.”

Not there. Unless you can persuade the Supreme Court to find it for you, perhaps under a penumbra of the emanations of Emmerich de Vattel or somewhere. And even if they so found, it would be in Congress's lap to do anything about it regarding Junior. Lots of luck with that!

It's almost certain, barring another amendment: Citizen at Birth == Natural Born Citizen.

[netmilsmom]

Thank you!

[bgill]

The Constitution understood that question and addressed it. Those people were grandfathered in.

[Non-Sequitur]

Please show us all where the Constitution defines all manners of citizenship.

The Constitution only identifies two types - natural born and naturalized. If you're not one then you're the other.

[bgill]

Then explain why the Constitution went out of it’s way to state eligiblity based upon Natural Born instead of Native or Naturalized?

Waiting....

Still waiting...

[bgill]

You can prove Chester was born in the US and lived his whole life here? Many thought he was born on the family’s farm in Canada and moved to the US later.

[chemical_boy]

No dude, his mother’s american citizenship and his fathers kenyan citizenship cancel each other out, he should be living in a UN refugee camp for countryless people or something.

And that is based on....what?

You forgot to turn your sarcasm meter on this morning didn't you?

[netmilsmom]

>>Chester Arthur was born, lived his whole life, and died in the U.S.<<

BHO did not.

[bgill]

Last time I checked, Obama was President.

That reasoning must hold water. Last time I checked there illegals masquerading as US citizens. Whew, glad we don't have to do anything about that as I was really worried something just wasn't quite right.

[Vinnie]

Why should an accident of birth cause questions of allegiance? Chester Arthur was born, lived his whole life, and died in the U.S. Why should we believe that he had any allegiance to a country he never lived in?

So then your argument is an 'anchor baby' should be eligible to become president in 35 or so years?

[Mr. Blonde]

You mean we have had birthers for over a hundred years? Awesome.

[netmilsmom]

>>That position was repudiated by the Supreme Court in the Ark decision.<<

The answer lies not in the word “citizen” but the difference between “natural born” and “naturalized”

Can you quote the Ark case where it says he is a “Natural born” citizen?

[Danae]

He isn’t eligible, thats the whole point.

[bgill]

Nope, you’re not getting off that easy. You are always demanding a definition from everyone else, now you can pony up the same.

[Non-Sequitur]

The answer lies not in the word “citizen” but the difference between “natural born” and “naturalized”

A distinction that was not raised in the Collins article that Donofrio is trumpeting. According to Collins, if your father was not a U.S. citizen then you don't qualify for any kind of citizenship, natural-born or otherwise. It was that position that the Ark case clearly repudiated.

But the Ark decision also ruled that children born in the U.S. are citizens at birth, a status clearly distinct from naturalized citizen. Since the Constitution identifies only two forms of citizenship then citizen by birth, citizen at birth, and natural-born citizen are all synonymous.