Posted on 08/26/2009 12:40:24 PM PDT by kellynla
If Obama's father was a Kenyan then how could Hussein be eligible to be POTUS?
“I never said they lied but then they do claim Sun Yat Sen was born there. They haven’t disclosed the entire truth. There are major questions about precisely where on the island he was born since one can’t be born in two hospitals at the same time, if the parents were married, if there was an attending physician/midwife or if the birth witnessed outside the family, if it was a delayed registration, if a whole lot of other things. The bc is just the tip of the iceberg. The bc is the starting point. The bc is just one of dozens of cards in his very shaky house of cards. When he brings out the long form and shows his original passports and opens his college records and gives a reason for the dozens of social security numbers, and etc., I’ll admit you were right all along but right now things smell very fishy.”
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Unfortunately, the law is not on the side of those who want more information about him. And I would not believe Orly’s claims about social security numbers — or anything, really. She collects things on the Internet that are meaningless. I agree that he’s brought all this suspicion on himself by doing what he has done, but I think it’s really a long shot to think that Hawaii would knowingly participate in a fraud. To me, it’s just not reasonable to think that.
Then you should stop making such assertions.
Then you should stop making such assertions.
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Meaningless response since you don’t quote what you’re responding to.
I back up my assertions with the law. I don’t just make assertions.
That is wholly incorrect. The class of person you are referring to are naturalized at birth, they are not natural-born citizens.No. You're the one that's wrong. Here's what title 8, which clarifies the 14th amendment has to say about naturalization vs natural born.Hope this helps.
Lolz.
FAIL.
Hope this helps.
You can repeat that mantra a million times but it doesn't help your arguement.
Congress has the power to pass laws concerning naturalization. If you have to point to to Title 8 to prove your citizenship; you're naturalized. Hope this helps.Not really, the 14th amendment is the law, title 8 just *clarifies* it. "born or naturalized" is the key word.
The BC stuff I can understand, the idiocy about his father is just silly.
Except that per the Constitution he needs to prove he is eligible which he's blocking at every turn. Orly is about the only one trying to do something though she's clueless and that cluelessness isn't helping. Keyes and the others are more level headed. As for her social security number claims, most I put down as someone with a similar name however, there are some with links back to him which is troubling.
There's far too much he's locked down tight. There's far too many unsavory characters he's been associated with throughout the years and who today are being placed in high government positions. There are the guys in da hood who's relationships he's lied about. There's his and Michelle's admitted hatered of the white race and America. There's the Marxist way he's destroying this country. Red flags keep popping up every day. Something is very wrong with this guy. It's not that I don't agree with the Dems or that I didn't vote for the "black" guy or that I enjoy a bad picture of Hillary. We lived through Carter. We lived through the Clintons. I'm not so sure if America has a future with Hussein. Flat out, there is something very, very wrong with BHO himself.
Yes...there is. It's called the Constitution of the United States of America.
The 14th Amendment did not amend Article II. Hope this helps.
PS. I concur, your ignorant idiocy concerning patrilineal natural citizenship is silly.
The word "natural" does not appear anywhere in the code section you cited. It sets the parameters for citizenship, but certainly does not impart NBC status to these citizens.
“Because his mother’s citizenship, plus his birth within the United States conferred upon him citizenship at birth, therefore making him a natural-born citizen as opposed to one who was naturalized after birth.”
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VERY wrong.
From Obama’s own site:
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate
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And you might have a look around this site.
If one or both of your parents owed allegiance at the time of your birth, you are not a natural born citizen. If you were born in the United States you would be a NATIVE BORN citizen, but that fact alone does not make you a natural born citizen.
Other nations citizenship statues have NOTHING to do if one is a U.S. citizen at birth or not.
Yes indeed, you are very wrong.
I will wait.
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