Grave found of man who bankrolled Confederates in American civil war

guardian.co.uk ^ | Monday 10 August 2009 10.16 BST | Maev Kennedy

[Nikas777]

Academic uncovers lost London resting place of Charles Kuhn Prioleau, and the forgotten story of Confederate support in Britain

Maev Kennedy

guardian.co.uk, Monday 10 August 2009 10.16 BST

The grave of a man who bankrolled the Confederate side in the American civil war, and ended up costing the British government £3.3m in compensation to the victorious north, has been tracked down in a patch of brambles in a London cemetery.

Charles Kuhn Prioleau, a cotton merchant born in Charleston, South Carolina, was based in Liverpool during the war, from 1861 to 1865. He disappeared from history in a bonfire of company records and correspondence after his firm went bankrupt, having sent supplies, funds, and blockade-busting ships to the Confederates.

But his mortal remains have now been traced to Kensal Green cemetery by a US academic who is gradually unearthing the almost forgotten story of Confederate support in England, which takes in the highest ranks of British politics and society.

[ConservativeMan55]

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[bamahead]

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[Dream Warrior]

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[Moose4]

Interesting.

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[AJMCQ]

Grave found of man who bankrolled the Communist takover of the United States in the early 21st Century. George Soros...

[Star Traveler]

Well..., there was a supporter of the 10th Amendment... :-)

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History and case law

The Tenth Amendment is similar to an earlier provision of the Articles of Confederation: “Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled.”

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

[Tijeras_Slim]

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[Vigilantcitizen]

Interesting middle name he had. ;^)>

[Nikas777]

Wars have unintended consequences - in the case of the Civil War the northern states did not want to end their sovereignty either but by the end of the war both the northern and the southern states were increasingly centralized as a result of that war to the point where state sovereignty is now really just an illusion - sort of like having a constitutional monarchy - just the trappings of it.

The war also transformed the Confederacy's central govt which has a result of the pressures of war reduced the sovereignty of their confederate states and attempted to centralize the war fighting effort of the states.

[johnnycap]

So in a sense, we as a nation have unfinished business regarding the true reason for the original Civil War...States’ Rights.

It was Lincoln who masked the real war in a moral struggle to end slavery but that was not what started the war. Self determination by the individual states was the true cause. That issue has yet to be resolved. Hence we are moving back to where we started. But this time, there is no moral high ground that trumps the true argument. The Federal Government will be hard pressed to defend the transgressions of our Constitution when push comes to shove.

[Star Traveler]

And onward goes the march towards a one-world government... as the Bible says is coming...

Actually, one of the things that many may not have considered is that the successor to the *evil one-world government* of the Antichrist of the Bible — is — the *one-world government* and absolute ruler over all, Jesus Christ... :-)

In other words, no matter what, it’s going to be a “one-world government”...

[Nikas777]

The SOuth masked the intent of the war also. The South was run more like an oligarchy than a republic and the southern oligarchs feared losing influence in the Senate in part over the southern economic system that used slavery vs the northern industrial economy.

Now you can argue state's rights means you can leave for any reason you want - a no fault divorce - if you will but that does take away the moral rectitude from the southern state's right claim somewhat.

[Nikas777]

That is an interesting tangent of thought.

[SunkenCiv]

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[kalee]

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[SunkenCiv]

Whoops! And thanks bamahead. My reply happened during the odd database problems we all experienced earlier this afternoon and evening.

[stand watie]

actually "lincoln, the DESTROYER of the Constitution & cheap,scheming, shyster lawyer" said repeatedly (in his own handwriting) that the war was NEVER about "slavery", "freeing the slaves" or ANYTHING else except "preserving the Union" (of the UNWILLING!!!)

almost a MILLION Americans DIED for his LUST for PERSONAL POWER & to make "his merry band of thugs, war profiteers & politicians" RICH.

lincoln, clinton & bho are THREE of a KIND. = DISHONEST, power-HUNGRY & willing to say/agree to/do ANYTHING to get more POWER/money. FACT.

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[wolfcreek]

Hear, Hear.

Those 3 were/are also puppets of international banking cartels, money masters. The very people responsible for the current [attempted] takeover of this country. http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/mhp/ArticleDisplay.php?Article=NoneDare03&Entity=USCivilWar

[stand watie]

just out of curiosity, WHERE did you get that REVISIONIST/STATIST bilge??

fwiw, the revolution of our southern ancestors against our northeastern "masters" (the financial/social/intellectual/business ELITES) was a PEASANT REVOLT, led by a relative handful of professionals like Robert E. Lee & Thomas (Stonewall) Jackson.

that is one of the main reasons that our southern ancestors failed in their quest for FREEDOM. = peasant revolts seldom succeed. (the only one that i can think of offhand, that it can be argued that did succeed, was the Vietnamese revolution.)

had the south won, the southern "plantation aristocracy" might well have been NEXT on "the list of dixie's enemies", as they had in all too many cases collaborated with the invading DAMNyankee army. ( nature is unkind to TURNCOATS.)

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