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I think the point is to use permanent magnets to work against other magnets attr/repel force so that the motor is continually destabilized (and spinning), thereby generation of “free-energy”. I think it’s possible, but I’m not a scientist so what do I know..


13 posted on 08/16/2009 11:10:24 AM PDT by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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Sorry, won’t work. Violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics.


16 posted on 08/16/2009 11:12:48 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Crazy is the new sane.)
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To: JSDude1
I think the point is to use permanent magnets to work against other magnets attr/repel force so that the motor is continually destabilized (and spinning), thereby generation of “free-energy”. I think it’s possible, but I’m not a scientist so what do I know..

This is used in the mag-lev trains and many of the newer roller coasters, however, an electrical power source is required to set up the magnetic field that pushes against the stationary field.

18 posted on 08/16/2009 11:14:53 AM PDT by calex59
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To: JSDude1

[I think the point is to use permanent magnets to work against other magnets attr/repel force so that the motor is continually destabilized (and spinning), thereby generation of “free-energy”. I think it’s possible, but I’m not a scientist so what do I know..]

I came up with a similar magnetic plan in the basement when I was about ten. Alas, that and my Red Ryder land sailboat wagon seemed to have been crushed by some vast Haliburton conspiracy to deprive the world of my genius.


27 posted on 08/16/2009 11:28:36 AM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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Ferromagnetic materials(ie permanent magnets) either have to be created by man(which we mostly do) or created by nature. It is actually fairly hard to find them in the natural state in a quantity and state(ie no purification needed) where they are useful so we typically have to make them. So in order for us to do that we have to put energy into them to get all of the poles to align permanently. No free energy is there.


37 posted on 08/16/2009 11:46:53 AM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: JSDude1
"I think the point is to use permanent magnets to work against other magnets attr/repel force so that the motor is continually destabilized (and spinning), thereby generation of “free-energy”. I think it’s possible, but I’m not a scientist so what do I know.."

Gauss's law for magnatism (shown in differential form) is one of Maxwell's equations.
\nabla\cdot\mathbf{B} = 0


This shows why there can never be residual "magnetism" left over for use in a free energy system.  It states that the magnetic field B has divergence equal to zero. It is equivalent to the statement that magnetic monopoles do not exist. In other words, all magnetism comes in a dipole moment.

There is simply no way to destabilize the magnetic field without a monopole.

83 posted on 08/16/2009 4:12:16 PM PDT by Daniel II (I'm Jim Thompson, this is my brother Jimmy, and this is my other brother Jimmy)
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To: JSDude1
think the point is to use permanent magnets to work against other magnets attr/repel force so that the motor is continually destabilized (and spinning), thereby generation of “free-energy”. I think it’s possible, but I’m not a scientist so what do I know.

You are totally right.... you are not a scientist.
97 posted on 08/16/2009 6:24:07 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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