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Advice on Being Prepared for BugOut
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Posted on 08/14/2009 8:51:27 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright

Advice on Being Prepared for BugOut

National Guard forced all people out of their grid locked vehicles and put them onto buses which took them to the airport for transport. Gone were all the survival goods that the family had packed. Granted, they were not survivalists and only packed family mementos, but if they had, the survival goods would have been forced to be left behind in the car. The National Guard were armed and ready to shoot if the people did not comply. "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."

If there is a need for an emergency bug out and you are an urban resident, how are you going to leave in time to avoid the traffic jam and gridlock that will surely occur? I am not being factitious; I am truly posing this question to this NG for discussion.

I will survive,

Gene

I had the same thought. I am going to rent a storage locker near my bug out site and keep my food storage/ammo storage/etc there and include my bicycle in my truck when heading for my 70 mile away bug out site. I could think of nothing else worse than sitting in that situation. My bug out site is a 12 acre mountain property with a partially completed cabin on it. Worse case I could walk to it in 2-3 days. Survive!

Gary

Hello...

As someone who has a slant on this issue, the first thing I urge you to do is stay current with factual, unbiased news sources. It is essential to see the writing on the wall before the sheep see it.

Have 2, 3, or perhaps 4 routes pre-planned and reconnoitered well in advance. Stay off the main highways and do not have your survival goodies visible in your vehicles. Never let your gas tank drop below half, and always keep the vehicle well-maintained.

Always carry at least three hundred dollars in (twenties?) small bills for any sudden purchases that may crop up. If you do need to get to your retreat due to civil unrest or a socio-economic upheavel; the 300.00 will buy quite a bit of canned veggies, top ramen soups, MRE's or whatever you might need more of. If you work in a large metro area and have your family in the burbs, prearrange what will transpire if the roles are reversed and the strife occurs in the burbs and not the city. Have a meeting place set up and pre-arrange what gear the burb dweller will bring.

If you have the luxory of having a bug-out retreat that is relatively safe, maintain 80% of your gear there...cleverly concealed in camouflaged rooms or cache's around the property. NEVER share your arrangements or survival plans to anyone who is not of our ilk.

If you have a location selected but do not own property there, make several trips to the area at various times through-out the year, so the locals get to recognize you and your vehicles. Get to know the local grocer, realtor, home construction laborers, and sporting goods store owner...these folks will probably be the most well-known in the town and the mere knowledge of names and occupations may get you through the highway blockades which are sure to spring up when the strife transpires.

Stay current in your 6 month dental appointments, stay current in tetanus and hepatitis precautions, first aid rtaining, CPR, skills related to fishing, firearms proficiency, food acquisition, and 'blending' with others who may not necessarily be your educational peers.

If your State has license plates that bear some indication of your community or county, you might want to consider going to a junk-yard and buying a set of the local plates. If you are bugging to a different State, ditto. Do not don a business suit if you are driving in a logging type environment. Wear a flannel shirt and an old baseball hat. You will look the part and avert nervous locals to more obvious strangers.

My friends, as one who has been prepared for a number of years, I feel we are on the brink of a re-structuring in our Country. I might recommend you look toward the Militia movement or any group that supports the second amendment.
Get to nkow others who believe in our American way of life and in selfreliance.
Be a good neighbor and an honest person. Give others the benefit of the doubt unless you factually know otherwise.
Just my two cents.

Vanished

Don't trust the Government. Don't trust Corruption.


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To: Neil E. Wright

I kind of plan to shelter in place..I can’t imagine trying to get out of town during an emergancy; all Hell would break loose.


21 posted on 08/14/2009 10:08:40 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (It takes a viking to raze a village!)
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To: Neil E. Wright

And BTW, my reply was to the context of, “If you have a location selected but do not own property there,” from the posted thread from “Emergency Preparedness.”


22 posted on 08/14/2009 10:08:47 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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To: oyez
We’re not going anywhere. I’m not donating my household possessions to the locals.

Possessions can be replaced, the lives of you and your loved ones can't be.

23 posted on 08/14/2009 10:17:46 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Neil E. Wright

ping ping ping


24 posted on 08/14/2009 10:38:29 PM PDT by Wife of D
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To: o_zarkman44
I agree with you 100%, although having an alternative safe locale is not a bad idea.

Also if you don't already know your neighbors introduce yourself and try to associate with those who are like minded.

Work out a plan(guard duty, pooling resources and abilities/skills etc.) with them and keep it to yourselves(don't tell your other less desirable neighbors).

25 posted on 08/14/2009 11:06:00 PM PDT by SantosLHalper (I am the World that hides the Universal secret of All time.)
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To: Lurker
Hi Lurker,

Just thought you might want to update the "Emergency Preparedness" article.

26 posted on 08/14/2009 11:11:38 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright (An OATH is FOREVER (NRA member))
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To: Neil E. Wright

Hi Tried to go to link, & it is not working. Can you provide website? Is it Univ. of Nebr Kearney?


27 posted on 08/14/2009 11:11:45 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait till it is free! "~ PJ O'Rourke)
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To: bushwon
hmmmmm .... it works here, but here's the link:

http://www.homeland-defender.com/Article1.htm

And it's from our Homeland Defenders website www.homeland-defender.com

28 posted on 08/14/2009 11:17:03 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright (An OATH is FOREVER (NRA member))
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To: Neil E. Wright

Thanks, I was refering to this line:

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29 posted on 08/14/2009 11:20:13 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait till it is free! "~ PJ O'Rourke)
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To: NewJerseyJoe
The freeways here in S-Hamptons have automatic iron bars to gridlock the entire freeway system.
The only recourse would be to have a quiet motorcycle and use the plethora of
back woods bike trails to get as far away as possible before they guard those also.

I still don't know for what reason they'll close off the freeway systems here.

30 posted on 08/14/2009 11:23:59 PM PDT by MaxMax (Will the real JIM THOMPSON please pick up the white phone)
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To: bushwon

Oh ... no I can’t remember the forum I snagged it from. It’s been in my computer for a LONG time. I posted the discussion here to get some input to help me (and maybe others) fine-tune contingency plans. Although I live in a “Ghost Town” I’m right on the border with the People’s Republic of Californica, so I’m creating several plans for when the SHTF, as I expect in the not too distant future.


31 posted on 08/14/2009 11:28:28 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright (An OATH is FOREVER (NRA member))
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To: familyop
Stay home and stay alive. All us small town hicks know exactly who lives in every house on every block. Outsiders will not be welcome, wanted, or tolerated.
I really have to laugh at these posts. I'm a retired AB Ranger. Ranch and farm raised and taught from childhood about growing and preserving our own food. 2.5 years of gunsmithing school and 30 years of shooting 1K yard comp. My home was built to defend. I know the exact distance of every blade of grass from my
“hides” out to 1K yards from my house. I own and regularly practice with night vision scopes. I have enough big dogs and geese around here that a fly couldn't sneak up on this place.
Have you ever discussed fields of fire with your neighbors? I have, many times. I live out in the sticks. We have had 2 different shots fired incidences out here in the last 10 years. It takes well over a half hour for the cops to get here even in an emergency. Every day I get out of bed is just another day I have the responsibility of defending myself and my family. 911 is a pipe dream out here. When the situation goes south I feel sorry for the city livers but stay away from me and mine. There is nothing here worth losing you life over. There are thousands of people out here who are just like we are. I will not be going anywhere or bothering anyone else. I suggest you play by those same rules. Stay home and stay alive.
32 posted on 08/14/2009 11:30:50 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (I'm a VET and damn proud of it!!! I did not fight for a socialist America!!!!!!!)
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To: djf
He’ll get a half mile and blow a rod and the road will be a parking lot.

Just drive around the parking lot..or over it! Or take the wetlands detour.

33 posted on 08/14/2009 11:39:41 PM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash ?)
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To: Neil E. Wright
Survival
34 posted on 08/15/2009 12:17:11 AM PDT by JOAT
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To: Neil E. Wright
They can call you and others a "right-wing" militia fanatic. I know who you are and what your position is. You fight against the ever-encroaching Federal government. I know that you believe in limited Fedgov power and lean towards States' rights.

I have enjoyed your company on many occasions at conferences and handed out our pocket-Constitutions (how simple is that?). We and other patriots have shared the same Constitutional principles we both believe in during our time at VETSCOR.

You fight against the progressive/liberal/socialist, and worst of all, the Marxism ideology that is the obambi, reid, pelosi triad ideology. They think their time has come for their "progressive" ideals. YOU and I both know such efforts have not worked and will never work. See my new tag line below.

I APPLAUD you. I will make the drive out to AZ (an open carry state), and live or die by your leadership when push comes to shove. I'm expecting it within the next (2) years, providing the US populace doesn't correct things.

I can't believe what I'm seeing happening almost daily. I grew up with the PROMISE of America, even as a punk kid.

But now I'm seeing that such promise/opportunity has taken a back seat to "equal outcome" in some misguided feely-good attempt to create UTOPIA!

Shipmate, things are coming to a head. I'm scared for the future of our Republic and the future of our children. I truly hope I die before the Republic does.

35 posted on 08/15/2009 12:49:16 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (Progressives are Regressive; Think Socialism Failures!)
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To: Neil E. Wright
Pretty much got it all. I have a years supply of Mountain food (water is still a question). I did so for natural and man-made disasters. WTSHTFan, we're kinda there.

My biggest concern is not how soon the water or food can get back on line, it's about how the inner city folks (bad AND good) will be heading towards our area for stuff. You know where I live. If a nuke went off tomorrow in Los Angeles, the survivors would span out towards suburban and country areas, and there's where we are as you know.

My SO thinks it's all BS, except for earthquake. Funny thing is, she has asked me to keep the 870 loaded. Hmmm...

36 posted on 08/15/2009 1:05:47 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (Progressives are Regressive; Think Socialism Failures!)
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To: Neil E. Wright

It is probably mentioned somewhere, but keep your supply of prescription meds full and up to date. Might be a bummer if some of them have to be refrigerated, so think along that line also.


37 posted on 08/15/2009 5:32:12 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: A Navy Vet
"My biggest concern is not how soon the water or food can get back on line, it's about how the inner city folks (bad AND good) will be heading towards our area for stuff..."

Not going to happen. Traffic gridlock will be your best defense. After that simple human failure will take care of the rest. If recent history is any indication, the zombies won't make it past the city limits sign. The inner city types will expend themselves trashing and looting their immediate neighborhoods. They've been trained like dogs how to find food, booze, and welfare checks. They won't deviate from it. After that, they'll be too weak and incapacitated to form a zombie army to march on the hinterlands.
Those caught in traffic gridlock will be completely localized and quickly die off from lack of preparedness. Those attempting to walk out won't make five miles. A lifetime of electronic keyboards and television viewing from their couches will see to that.
Meanwhile, back in the inner city, booze, cigarettes, potato chips, soda pop, athletic shoes, clothing, and useless electronic goods will be scarfed up while food will be left to rot. In the initial frenzy, medical supplies, canned goods and bottled water will be completely ignored. Call that the fatal first misteps by the sheeple.
After few days, they'll turn submissive again as they gather around the municipal buildings and hold out their hands for scheduled welfare and social support payouts. After half a day of that, the booze and drugs will wear off. They'll realize nobody's home, and collapse in place. They won't have the knowledge needed to survive, and they'll be too weak by then to do anything about it even if they did. New Orleans during Katrina is your model. Three successive generations made dependent upon government largess. A cave man could do it, but those poor folks lost the knowlege needed to make fire. Didn't even have the wherewithall to collect rainwater to drink. Thirst, starvation, and ordinary sepsis will form the bulwark of your defenses.
38 posted on 08/15/2009 5:34:20 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (Will work for ammo.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

we dont plan to go anywhere if it gets bad. We will have a few selected folks coming to us.

The plan is to block the road, listen to our radios and the TV (IF it’s working) and wait it out.

There will be enough gunmen and women on hand to make looting a risky affair for close by white trash.


39 posted on 08/15/2009 10:37:01 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (I think youre so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
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To: A Navy Vet

buy some of the water bladders from cheaper than dirt and fill those if you think trouble is coming. Of course, theyre hard to carry, so Id say you should stay home WITH them.


40 posted on 08/15/2009 10:40:46 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (I think youre so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
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