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The other angle why the civilian populace in the US would not have to deal with tanks, A-10’s and the like is this:
As every combat vet can attest, war, even “limited” war, makes a mess of things. War doesn’t just kill people, it radically undercuts real estate valuations.... in a hurry.
If the motto of real estate agents is “location, location, location!” then the contra-positive to this is “don’t own any property where some young soldier or Marine lights off a 120mm smooth bore...”
Well, what happens when people do own property in the proximity of the military doing military-like stuff? Economic activity stops. Folks quit shopping, they sure as heck don’t take tourism side-trips to see the Abrams tear up the streets, folks pack up and leave Dodge... etc.
No economic activity, no tax revenue. No tax revenue... and the government soon has a problem funding government operations... like the military.
So the military would likely not be able to use all their big toys. They’d be down to boots in the street, much as the Brits were in North Ireland. And we all know how successful the Brits were at pacifying North Ireland, don’t we?
But if the fools try something like that, I predict there will be more dead government thugs than civilians.
At the end of “Red Dawn” didn’t the Wolverines lose? I only remember them getting shot by the helicopters.
If the us gov’t, military or law enforcement turn against the people the most effective weapons would be explosives, not firearms.
The ragheads in Iraq know this and are using them to great success.
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and... I still remember, and take my Oath very seriously.
It’s been posted many times.
David slew Goliath with a slingshot.
And I’ve been saying all along that no one needs to have 6000 rounds of ammo at home if they are not willing to use 6.
My guess is the cops, at least a large majority, from big cities and urban areas will turn into Nazis when told to do so. They did so in New Orleans.
Now the rural deputies and small town cops might be a different bunch. I hope so.
The army issues and uses a large number of handguns. Issue settled. Handguns are not the best weapons for offense therefore citizens should all be armed with the best rifles and shotguns they can afford.
I recall a magazine article about my late wife’s ancestors in Texas. It told of one sharp fight with commanhes and several brushes with them. When they headed into Indian territory the army gave them several Spencer rifles and a pile of ammo. All for free. What a change from now where we are destroying all surplus guns as fast as possible. This under Bush and Obama.
Oh, I’ve seen this posted at least 5 times before on FR.
It warms my heart every time.
Then I have to tell them about the tried and true doctrine of TRADE UP. Of course it works like this: #1 If I have a 22 I can GET an M4. #2 If I have an M4 I can GET an M249 SAW. I can take this trade up as far as I want. Name it: Tanks, mortars, whatever. Don't need to start with an arsenal. Of course starting with the right gear does short the process quite a bit. Thus if I start with my Springfield Armory M1A Super-match and my 3x10 range finding Shepherd Scope I can pretty much get what I want if others do the leg work while I launch rounds.
I spent a lot of time as an infantry officer but then I did a rare branch transfer into Armor in the reserves and attended the Armor Officers Advanced Course. I found out quite a few things about those tanks that are pretty much universal: Most of all, tanks HATE wire. Especially staked down barbed type wire. It gets wrapped around the wheels and entwined in the tracks. 'Round and 'round and 'round. Until the tank is immobilized. What is known as a mobility "kill." Of course none of the tanks weapons systems are affected by the wire so it essentially becomes a fixed fortification. But the crew have go to pop their heads out eventually to take care of business. That wire can usually only be released by using a cutting torch so that tank really ain't goin' anywhere. Q: What does the American countryside have in surplus quantities? A: Lots and lots of BARBED WIRE.
Well, what about those nasty CHOPPERS? Comes the question spinning from the back of the class. I tell them that in certain areas of the country, namely those heavily forested, they can be just as vulnerable to wire as well. Cable not barbed wire. All kinds of uses for cable. Especially in tight LZs or urban LZs or corridors of flight when NOE (nap of the earth) rules are in effect. All kinds of stuff when you think outside the box. That's what I try to instill in my students: Critical Thinking.
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If my trusted adviser ever says “My liege, he is but one man. What can one man possibly do?”, I will reply “This”, pull out my pistol, and shoot the adviser in the head.
To be effective such a rebellion would have to incorporate the entire active military - some would remain loyal to the State, others no so much.
Of course, the Marxist-Maoists know this as well. So when you see the push for unilateral disarmament (disbanding the existing military) and the push for the creation of a force guaranteed to remain loyal - the Civilian National Security Force - begin at once or any rebellion is toastados.
Two words.
Warsaw Ghetto.
Excellent read.