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Chode ^ | 8/5/2009 | Chode

Posted on 08/05/2009 7:57:45 PM PDT by Chode

This will be a general purpose thread for F1 news and pings that really don't require a thread of their own.


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: f1; f1gp; formula1; formulaone; grandprix
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To: Chode
do they also produce their own engines???

According to their web site, their engines were created in cooperation with Cosworth.

The interesting read is the section covering the 'leaders' of the company.

http://www.marussiamotors.ru/en/company/leaders/

521 posted on 11/16/2010 7:32:59 PM PST by Lockbox (`)
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To: Chode

We have a “Help” ping list? F1? LOL

Or is this Formula 1 racing?


522 posted on 11/16/2010 7:38:42 PM PST by MortMan (To Obama "Kill them all and let [God] sort them out" is an abortion slogan.)
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To: Chode; Bad~Rodeo; Betis70; bobby.223; bobt7818; brf1; cld51860; Cowboy Bob; Cruising Speed; ...

Chode, thank you for all of your efforts in maintaining the ping list and selecting excellent updates.

As this season closes, I just want to reiterate a sentiment I have expressed before, confirmed in spades at the last race.

MICHAEL SCHUMACHER IS A DISGRACE. I hope the drivers next year will not have to endure his presence next year.


523 posted on 11/16/2010 9:08:24 PM PST by frithguild (The Democrat Party Brand - Big Government protecting Entrenched Interests from Competition)
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To: Lockbox
thx...
524 posted on 11/16/2010 9:34:31 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: MortMan
yes
525 posted on 11/16/2010 9:36:34 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: frithguild
i thank you sir... but how do you really feel about Schui??? 8^)
526 posted on 11/16/2010 9:39:14 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: frithguild

Well I can say with much confidence, that Schumacher (in his prime) would not have finished 7th in a final race of the season when starting 3rd, and when a 4th place would have delivered the title.

As for being a disgrace, then....

Mark Weber is a disgrace for driving up the rear wheel of Kovalainen at Spain,

Hamilton is a disgrace for pushing too hard in the final laps at Monza and throwing away a podium,

Vettel is a disgrace for t-boning Button at Spa,

Alonso is a disgrace for... well, for finishing 7th in a race he should have been on the podium and been awarded a season championship.

I can add racers to this list, but if turn 1 mishaps were the bellwether of racer’s disgrace, most would then, in fact, be a disgrace.


527 posted on 11/17/2010 5:37:43 AM PST by GreenAccord (Bakon Akbar!)
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To: frithguild; Chode

I lurked more than posted, but also want to thank Chode for keeping up the F1 interest on this forum. This was a fantastic season with all the changes at the top for the driver’s championship, decided in the last race in a gutsy move by Vettel coming out of the pits. A true champion; I love watching him race.


528 posted on 11/17/2010 6:02:27 AM PST by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: GreenAccord; Chode
Austrailia - Schumacher accuses Fernando of blocking during Quali, then admits he does not know the rules - "“I had a conversation with Charlie Whiting about this as well, because I need to know what is the reference, what are the guidelines here, what are the rules?” Then he can't keep the nose on the car in the race.

'Schumi' fails to qualify any higher than seventh or finish any higher than sixth in the opening four grands prix, while Rosberg began from the front row in Malaysia and ascended the podium both in Sepang and Shanghai, standing second in the drivers championship.

Monaco - Schumacher passes Alonso under the safety car, resulting in a 20 second penalty.

Canada - Schumacher puts Kubica into the grass. Then he contacts Sutil and almost wrecks Masa.

Hungary

Singapore - Schumacher brakes late and punts Heidfeld

Japan - Schumacher dices with his teamate while on cold tires, having just exited the pit.

Abu Dabi - Schumacher spins in an unforced error on lap one and almost loses his head.

There are other examples. Schumacher is consistently a hazard to himself, other drivers and anybody in range of the course because he believes he is owed. He is a disgrace.

529 posted on 11/17/2010 11:45:05 AM PST by frithguild (The Democrat Party Brand - Big Government protecting Entrenched Interests from Competition)
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To: frithguild
no argument here, just busting yer hump a bit... 8^)
530 posted on 11/17/2010 2:50:09 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: henkster
you are most welcome... Vettel was awesome and deserved to win.
531 posted on 11/17/2010 2:53:08 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

I know.


532 posted on 11/17/2010 2:53:50 PM PST by frithguild (The Democrat Party Brand - Big Government protecting Entrenched Interests from Competition)
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To: GreenAccord

>>Alonso is a disgrace for... well, for finishing 7th in a race he should have been on the podium and been awarded a season championship.

IMO that was a result of the team’s messed up pit stop scheduling. They were looking at the leaders and not the traffic (Petrov) who had already pitted and was good to go till the end of the race.

Kudos to Vettel for never wavering in his conviction that he could win the Championship AND pulled it off.

It seemed like Webber wilted under the pressure towards the end of the season.


533 posted on 11/17/2010 6:45:47 PM PST by Betis70 (First the House, then the Senate)
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To: henkster; Chode

Ditto....


534 posted on 11/17/2010 7:50:29 PM PST by mojo114 (Pray for all of our military.)
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To: mojo114
danke schoen...
535 posted on 11/17/2010 7:57:06 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: frithguild
'Schumi' fails to qualify any higher than seventh or finish any higher than sixth in the opening four grands prix, while Rosberg began from the front row in Malaysia and ascended the podium both in Sepang and Shanghai, standing second in the drivers championship.

Yep, and he maintained all year long that the lack of oversteer in the car was not accustomed to his style. That's what he gets for coming into a team after much development. We'll see next year.

Monaco - Schumacher passes Alonso under the safety car, resulting in a 20 second penalty.

Yep, and the team essentially admitted to trying to sneak one past the stewards under a bogus way to read the rules.

Canada - Schumacher puts Kubica into the grass. Then he contacts Sutil and almost wrecks Masa.

I think ALL the blocking antics by a slower-Schumacher came to an end after the Barrichello incident.

Singapore - Schumacher brakes late and punts Heidfeld

C'mon. Braking as late as possible IS F1. There are probably THOUSANDS of examples of too-late braking throughout a season, counting practices and qualifying. Your argument doesn't hold up if you think you can point to a racer who broke late and caused havoc means that racer is a disgrace. It happens at EVERY event.

Japan - Schumacher dices with his teamate while on cold tires, having just exited the pit.

Seriously? Just about ANY racer will try to hold their position coming out of the pits with cold tires. Any racer. It's the guy behind who out-duels if they know how maximize their tire advantage. That's not a slam on Rosberg, who by every assessment, out-drove his team mate all season.

Abu Dabi - Schumacher spins in an unforced error on lap one and almost loses his head.

And yet, had he turned into Rosberg, that's all you'd be saying. Gasp! A racer spins out in traffic in turn one of an F1 race!

There are other examples. Schumacher is consistently a hazard to himself, other drivers and anybody in range of the course because he believes he is owed.

Ok, please render an opinion on the China pit maneuver Alonso pulled? And the Webber spin out in Korea, taking out Rosberg?

536 posted on 11/18/2010 6:58:05 AM PST by GreenAccord (Bakon Akbar!)
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To: Chode; Bad~Rodeo; Betis70; bobby.223; bobt7818; brf1; cld51860; Cowboy Bob; Cruising Speed; ...
F1 stuff...

Germany's new world champion Sebastian Vettel was greeted by around 10,000 fans as he returned to his hometown of Heppenheim on Sunday. Mayor Gerhard Herbert even presented Vettel with a sign which temporarily renamed the town 'Vettelheim'.
Full story: redbullracing.com

Sebastian Vettel revealed during a speech in front of his home fans that Ferrari's Fernando Alonso, who had led the championship going into the final race, has not yet shaken hands on Vettel's success. The 23-year-old said: "He still has not congratulated me."
AFP news agency

Venezuelan racer Pastor Maldonado has flagged up that he is expecting some significant news about his future this week. Maldonado, who is expected to fill the vacant seat at Williams after testing for them last week, says: "This week will be very important and I hope to have news of the future."
Full story: Pastor Maldonado on Twitter (in Spanish)

I'm hearing that Nico Hulkenberg is a likely Mercedes reserve driver in 2011. He has the same manager as Mercedes driver Michael Schumacher.
Full story: BBC F1 commentator Jonathan Legard on Twitter

Double world champion Emerson Fittipaldi expects Michael Schumacher to be a 'huge contender' for the 2011 world title. Fittipaldi says: "I think the new car will be will be much more suited to Michael's driving, oversteering into corners."
The Times

Could German car giant BMW be persuaded to rejoin Formula 1 after quitting the sport at the end of 2009? "I don't see that in the near future, no," said Mario Theissen, BMW motorsport director. In more positive news, Theissen, who gave Sebastian Vettel his first F1 drive for BMW Sauber, says the world champion could race in F1 for the next 15 years.
Full story: autosport.com

Sebastian Vettel also reckons the key to winning the world title was his unshakeable self-belief. He says: "Over the course of a long season it is sometimes tempting to slacken the reins but the most important thing is to never give up the belief in yourself."
Full story: formula1.com

Rumours still swirl about Felipe Massa's future at Ferrari. I'm told that Adrian Sutil was lined up to replace him for 2011 with Massa moving to Sauber but plans changed after Spa.
Full story: BBC F1 commentator Jonathan Legard on Twitter

F1 track designer Hermann Tilke will work with Texan sports stadium design company HKS as he continues to plan the venue for the 2012 US Grand Prix in Austin. HKS were the architects for the Dallas Cowboys stadium and are behind plans for Liverpool FC's proposed Stanley Park Stadium.
Full story: adamcooperf1

Pedro de la Rosa has not given up on returning to F1 in 2011 despite being replaced by Nick Heidfeld at Sauber for the last five races of this season. The Spanish driver has held talks with Hispania but is still considering his options.
Full story: autosport.com

Red Bull reserve Daniel Ricciardo says he plans to sit tight and wait for further news on his future in F1 after topping the timesheets in last week's young driver test in Abu Dhabi. The Australian spoke to Red Bull's motorsport consultant Dr Helmut Marko after the tests but was told nothing was confirmed on his future.
Full story: autosport.com

537 posted on 11/22/2010 8:44:26 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

jeez...Hulkenburg a reserve driver while Sutil got consieration for Ferrari??? what’s wring with this picture?


538 posted on 11/23/2010 5:30:09 AM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: God luvs America

really...


539 posted on 11/23/2010 5:31:30 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: God luvs America

Sutil is pretty damn good. Nico looked good at the end of the season but was consistently outpaced by RB over the first half IMHO.

Sutil could also just be more amenable to being #2 behind Massa in Ferrari’s view.


540 posted on 11/23/2010 6:57:45 AM PST by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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