Posted on 08/05/2009 7:57:45 PM PDT by Chode
This will be a general purpose thread for F1 news and pings that really don't require a thread of their own.
VEGAS!
COOL.
I think this year is gonna be a shootout between sains and verstappen. (Loads of good drivers, but these two are back and forth usually at the front) gonna be an exciting season hopefully.
Spa is the very last track that should be axed. In the USA they should bring back Watkins Glen because it is a great track and add the Daytona road course because it is close to me now. Or Sebring, but it is pretty rough for F1.
Holy cow, there is a huge alligator cruising the lake behind my house. That sucker must be 10 ft long! I will need to take appropriate caliber when I take my German Shepherd outside.
Oh, yes...Daytona.
Also of note, for,indy car is Jimmy Johnson- didmreally well in two of the oval races on same track, a d also was doing well in last road race at Indianapolis until so etching happened. He was even leading at one point. Kinda neat to watch him progress in the new venue for him. He seems to,be getting the hang of it a bit. So different from what he was used to though.
Of more concern to F1 fans is the universally loved Spa circuit for the Belgian Grand Prix, with the backdrop of the Ardennes forest and its micro climate combined with a challenging circuit among many drivers and supporters favorite races.
That too could be axed, only appearing on the calendar every other year.
that would be an act of war...
100%
is the old layout still there or will it need tweaking/new layout all together?
yup, rubbin is strictly frowned upon... 8^)
Daytona. Banked turns like they used to have at Monza! Sure it is dangerous. Sure to keep away Hamilton and his gay rainbow helmet :)
i’d love to see it
Yep- them F-1’s don’t take well to it- though some drivers seem to forget that from time to time lol
I was thinking
Vegas SPEEDWAY,
High Speed Oval 15 miles
North of Downtown.
F1 boys can’t turn
Left without a
Chicane.
.
F1 road course?
Sorry, no clue.
Gators!?!
I tested at Sebring,
Just a Sand Dune as I remember.
OK...
the old F1 was a street course wi a couple parking lots
it sucked
Yes, Sebring is a track that runs partly on an old airport used in WWII for bomber training. It is used for IMSA races and Indy Cars use it for testing to find weak points in the chassis design because it is so bumpy. I remember watching races where wild pigs were rooting in the grass off to the side of the track.
I spent a weekend testing
Mark Smith under Walker Racing then Mark drove the
Rental car with the cheif mech and I to Miami for a couple of Demonstration laps. That No Talent SOB took out Every marker reflector Before we left the Track.
It just got worse from there on,,,
I heard Mark Smith’s Brother died in a car he was driving.
Willie T. RIBBS was a Better driver!
.
No Spa? That sucks. I believe France will be off the calendar-again.
Spa is being punished for some reason...
in a sane world, the FANS would dictate what races are dropped...
https://www.thedrive.com/news/mercedes-f1-boss-insists-porpoising-may-cause-brain-damage-in-drivers
Mercedes F1 Boss Insists Porpoising May Cause Brain Damage in Drivers
A medical study from 2015 shows a link between continuous vibration and brain-injury.
BY NICO DEMATTIA, AUG 1, 2022 5:22 PM
Ever since the painful image of Mercedes driver Lewis Hamilton needing help out of his Formula 1 car, Mercedes team boss Toto Wolff has been outspoken about fixing the series' porpoising issues. Porpoising in F1 racers, which are the cars' sometimes-violent undulations, is due to the new aerodynamics of this year's cars. While other teams said Wolff may be exaggerating, according to Motorsport.com, Wolff cited a study that claims drivers risk brain damage from the constant bouncing.
"The FIA has commissioned medical work on the porpoising. The summary of the doctors is that frequency of 1-2 Hz, sustained over a few minutes, can lead to brain damage. We have 6-7 Hz over several hours." Wolff said.
While Wolff claims he was shown that study during a meeting, and doesn't cite the study itself, there could be some truth to his claims. According to the Journal of Stroke and Cerebrovascular Diseases, there may be a link between constant vibration and brain injury.
In a 2015, motor vehicle-induced whole-body vibration can cause significant brain injury, mostly by causing cerebral vasoconstriction, which limits blood flow and oxygen to the brain. The study was done on nine groups of rats, to see if vibrations from motor vehicles could cause long-term brain injury. Four of those groups were subject to whole-body vibrations of 30Hz and 0.5G acceleration for four hours per day, five days per week, for several weeks. Afterward, all rats were subject to behavioral, physiological, and histological brain studies.
All of the rats in the study, including both the vibrated rats (a phrase I never thought I'd type) and the non-vibrated rats in the control groups were physically fine. However, the vibrated rats all showed a decline in cognitive ability compared to the control rats. Maze tests proved the vibrated rats were consistently more hesitant to make decisions and were often more confused. They also suffered weakened grip strength, a slower reaction to heat, and a slower reaction to pain. Although Wolff may have been talking about another study, a possible link between vibration and cognitive ability is there.
The issue has gotten better over the past few weeks, with fewer drivers mentioning porpoising issues. However, Wolff says that point is moot. “The argument is we haven't had any porpoising and bouncing in the last few races. But it doesn't count because Silverstone, Paul Ricard, and Austria aren't exactly tracks that we bounce at anyway.” he said.
Other teams, such as Red Bull and Ferrari, have learned how to overcome the bouncing issue and claim it isn't a safety issue but an engineering one. But Wolff and the FIA seem to think that a change needs to be made next season.
Benz has a problem, therefor the other teams must pay for their mistake, is that it???
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