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Chode ^ | 8/5/2009 | Chode

Posted on 08/05/2009 7:57:45 PM PDT by Chode

This will be a general purpose thread for F1 news and pings that really don't require a thread of their own.


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: chode; f1; f1gp; formula1; formulaone; grandprix; kmg
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To: mabarker1

they are called PROFESSIONALS for a reason.


2,661 posted on 06/10/2018 5:14:22 PM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: Chode

I saw it. What a massive cock-up. This is just emblematic of the mess a “media” company is making of F1.


2,662 posted on 06/10/2018 5:34:07 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Truth is hate speech to those who hate the truth.)
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To: clintonh8r

100%! understatement of the year so far=

Vettel over team radio: “Tell them not to wave the flag when it’s not done.”


2,663 posted on 06/10/2018 5:47:06 PM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: Chode; All

sadly this was the only excitement in this race...another dud F1 race...


2,664 posted on 06/10/2018 6:02:03 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Chode

Nice looking cow, but that other beast be fugly!


2,665 posted on 06/10/2018 6:08:12 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (Give me the liberty to take care of my own security..........)
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To: Chode

hehehe....couldn’t happen to a nicer chap


2,666 posted on 06/10/2018 6:40:40 PM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-https://youtu...8th TFW Ubon Thailand....never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Chode

SJWs continually prove, that everything they touch turns into bovine excrement.


2,667 posted on 06/10/2018 6:42:56 PM PDT by bugseye
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To: bugseye

sh!tfinger


2,668 posted on 06/10/2018 7:29:15 PM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: Chode; henkster; mabarker1; clintonh8r; God luvs America; Doogle; bugseye
The official story on the early flag:

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/136670/fia-explains-how-canada-flag-error-happened

Formula 1 race director Charlie Whiting says a miscommunication between local officials led to the chequered flag being shown one lap early in the Canadian Grand Prix.

The official on the start/finish stand, who carries the title of starter, thought race leader Sebastian Vettel was on his 70th and final lap, and mistakenly asked model Winnie Harlow to wave the flag when the Ferrari driver was actually completing his 69th lap.

Drivers continued to race for the extra lap, despite the fact that at some points on the track marshals were waving multiple flags in the traditional end of race salute.

The situation was treated in the same way as a red flag, and after initially being listed at lap 69 the final result subsequently went back to lap 68. There were no place changes in the top 10, although Daniel Ricciardo lost his fastest lap to Red Bull team-mate Max Verstappen.

"The chequered flag was shown a lap early because of a miscommunication with the guy that they call the starter here, who starts and finishes the races," said Whiting.

"He thought it was the last lap, he asked race control to confirm it, they confirmed it, but they thought he was making a statement when he was asking a question.

"He just showed it a lap early, or he told the flag waver to show it a lap early, so it wasn't anything to do with the fact that it was a celebrity flag waver."

Whiting believes that the starter was misled by the TV graphic that notes the lap that the leader is on, rather than laps completed - which is what happened in a similar situation in China in 2014.

"I think people who don't work in F1 are sometimes a little confused by the graphic that they see on the screen where it says 69 out of 70," he said.

"We all know that means we're on lap 69, but someone who let's say is more casual observer thinks 'Oh, this must mean it's the last lap.'

"I think that's where the doubt originates. Obviously we need to do a better job of briefing these people.

"Just a simple miscommunication, a very regrettable one of course.

"You're dealing with a lot of human beings, different countries, different languages, and it's not always absolutely perfect.

"Of course we strive for perfection. Fortunately there was no real harm done, insofar as it didn't affect the result of the race."

2,669 posted on 06/11/2018 8:46:12 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo
well... it's possible, but then he should be removed from flagging or fired since it is his JOB to know the lap count and what lap the leader is on!

it's also possible she just screwed up, it's not like they would ever tell us the truth if she was at fault anyway

2,670 posted on 06/11/2018 9:06:14 AM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: Chode

Nobody’s ever at fault or responsible. They’re damn lucky there wasn’t a massive crash with some cars slowing while others are still racing.

As they might say in NASCAR,

“It wuzz jiss wuuna them raycin deeuhlz.”


2,671 posted on 06/11/2018 9:27:43 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Truth is hate speech to those who hate the truth.)
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To: clintonh8r

100%


2,672 posted on 06/11/2018 9:29:55 AM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: Yo-Yo; Chode; All

2 laps, 1 lap geeze FIA make up your mind(s) !!!

Stop letting “celeberties” play with the Flags and leave it to the Professionals !!!

If Hammy wants to entertain His Lady friend to get involved in the Race the strap her into the #44 Silver Arrow and send her out for a lap or two, I’ll bet Toto Wolf would say- NOT GONNA HAPPEN...


2,673 posted on 06/11/2018 11:11:30 AM PDT by mabarker1 (congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: mabarker1

whats lap or two anyway when it’s for diversity


2,674 posted on 06/11/2018 1:20:25 PM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: Chode; al_c; arbitrary.squid; arderkrag; atc23; BBB333; Bad~Rodeo; bajabaja; Betis70; biff; ...
i still remember this like it was yesterday, this morning, not so much

Six appeal - 6 fascinating facts about Tyrrell’s six-wheeler

23 Jun 2016

40 years ago this month, Jody Scheckter took Tyrrell’s revolutionary 'Project 34' car to victory in Sweden. To mark the occasion, here’s our lowdown on F1’s only six-wheeled race winner…

1. Jackie Stewart choked on his drink when he was told about the concept

According to Derek Gardner, the man behind the P34’s revolutionary design concept, Jackie Stewart had a “fit of choking” when, on a flight home from the 1975 South African Grand Prix, the designer snuck into the first class section of the plane and informed the retired three-time world champion of his outlandish plans for Tyrrell’s next challenger. But what had convinced Gardner to think so radically? Put simply: F1’s increasingly level playing field.

In the mid-Seventies almost every team on the grid (save Ferrari) was using the same Cosworth DFV engine, the same Hewland gearbox and the same Goodyear tyres, meaning that it had become extremely hard to find what Gardner termed ‘an unfair advantage’. Thinking outside the box, the designer revisited an idea he had first conceived while thinking up a way to improve the handling on Lotus’s four-wheel-drive gas turbine IndyCar of 1968 - a six-wheeled car.

“I did some calculations, and concluded that if I had a car with four small front wheels, contained within the width of the bodywork, I could reduce the amount of lift generated by normal front wheels,” Gardner told Autosport magazine. “That in turn would allow me to back off on the front aerodynamics. And, hey presto, the figure I came up with was the equivalent of 40-odd horsepower!”

read th rest here...

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/features/2016/6/six-fascinating-facts-tyrrell-P34.html


2,675 posted on 06/13/2018 7:02:44 PM PDT by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/technical/2018/6/tech-tuesday—2019-f1-rules-spice-up-racing.html

TECH TUESDAY: Examining the 2019 F1 rule changes to boost overtaking

12 Jun 2018

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Closer racing and more overtaking – these were the key targets as rule changes for the 2019 season were announced. In a video produced by our tech team of Giorgio Piola and Mark Hughes, we explain the major revisions aimed at spicing up the racing in 2019…

Unity amongst all parties is not always forthcoming in a sport as competitive as Formula 1, but when it comes to future regulations, everyone from the fans, to the FIA, to F1, to the teams and drivers is united in a belief that delivering closer competition and more passing must be priorities.

These considerations are a key factor as the FIA, in collaboration with a Pat Symonds-led aero team at F1, continue work on shaping the technical regulations for 2021. But we don’t have to wait another three years to see the first fruits of that research. In fact, the initial developments will arrive much sooner, with a number of significant aero changes being introduced next season to spice up the racing.

These are shown in detail in the video above, but in summary the changes are:

A simplified front wing with standardised endplates, tweaked dimensions and no upper flaps. This will encourage aerodynamicists to direct more of the flow to the underbody (where it is less sensitive to the disturbed wake of the car in front) than the outer body

The deletion of the upper flaps at the outer ends of the wing will make it impossible to create the vortices that are generated by the current, highly complex endplates to enhance the outer-body aerodynamics. This will further encourage the so-called ‘inwash’ aero philosophy of directing airflow to the underbody, rather than the current emphasis on ‘outwash,’ which is highly sensitive to the air from the car ahead and therefore makes it harder for cars to follow one another closely

Tweaks to the front wing’s dimensions and the limiting of under-wing strakes to two each side to further discourage outwash aerodynamics

Winglets mounted on the brake ducts currently play a part in directing the flow to the outer part of the body. These are banned from 2019, as are blown axles, which currently use air directed out of the centre of the wheel at high speed to energise the flow down the outer surfaces of the bodywork further back

Barge boards are lowered by 150mm (to make them less powerful in directing the airflow) and moved forwards by 100mm to make them less sensitive to the airflow being disturbed from the car in front

The rear wing endplates will no longer be permitted to have horizontal gills. These equalize the pressure between the inner and outer faces of the endplate to give a faster flow over the top of the wing for more downforce, but they introduce an extra disturbance to the wake, which worsens the performance of the car behind

The DRS opening will be increased from 65mm to 85mm. Together with an increase in width and height of the wing, this will make the DRS around 25-30% more powerful so as to allow it to be effective on those circuits with too short a straight for the current system. The FIA will also review the length of DRS zones at every circuit in order to maximise the effect of the changes

The increased height of the wing will take the ‘rooster tail’ wake coming off the back of it higher into the air than currently. More of the energy from that wake will be diffused into the free air around it before it returns to the level where it will be affecting the following car


2,676 posted on 06/13/2018 7:04:52 PM PDT by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: Chode

Seems it would slow down the pit stops.


2,677 posted on 06/13/2018 7:09:36 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

yeah, tween that and fueling, it looked like ants crawling all over the car


2,678 posted on 06/13/2018 7:15:21 PM PDT by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: Chode
That is such a crazy look, like some sort of overgrown road racing kart.

I was heavily into road racing motorcycles at the time and lost interest in F1 and missed this fun stuff.

2,679 posted on 06/13/2018 8:09:47 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (Give me the liberty to take care of my own security..........)
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To: Chode

If F1 wants to increase overpass opportunities, they should try a different method of activating DRS.

The first method could be instead of having to be within 1 second of the lead car at the speed trap to enable DRS, go to the Indy car Push To Pass method and give each team a total of 30 seconds, 45 seconds, or a predetermined amount of time appropriate for each track of DRS activation time that can be used at any time.

Then each driver and team can decide when to use DRS to overtake or defend an overtake. This will also allow cars farther back to make up time to catch the leader.

A less radical approach would be to simply raise the gap limit to activate DRS. Instead of a 1 second gap, make it a 2, 3, or 4 second gap.


2,680 posted on 06/14/2018 3:08:11 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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