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Florida Quarterback Tebow Leaves Reporters Speechless: "Yes I am" Saving Myself for Marriage
LifeSite ^ | July 30, 2009 | John Jalsevac

Posted on 07/31/2009 10:40:52 AM PDT by NYer

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To: ansel12
The thing is the Protestant vote, you seem upset that Americans might look forward to some positive effects of backwards countries becoming more Protestant Christian.

It would be beneficial to the countries and to the American people.


I am upset if moral values (e.g. pro-life) were sacrificed in exchange for financial gain. And of course, if Protestantism is false (with personal interpretation of Scripture as a principle, variations in belief between Protestants guarantee that nearly all are partly in error) and Catholicism is true, then I would lament people embracing error. Since most forms of Protestantism are a huge step up from atheism, paganism or Islam, I wish Protestant missionaries well in countries with those populations.

I do not accept the premise that Protestantism = financial gain and that Catholicism = intransigent poverty, either. Even if it did, what good does it do a man to gain the whole world yet lose his soul?
141 posted on 08/01/2009 4:30:47 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: NYer

Why is this a Catholic Ping?
Why not? Tebow is a Christian who received those morals from the Bible that was compiled by the Catholic Church.”

Wrong. The Bible followed the Christians from Jerusalem to Antioch to Bulgaria to Bosnia and across Europe, while the Pope was commanding Jerome to translate Sinaiticus and Vaticanus, two error-riddled manuscripts, into Latin, which they then chained to the lecterns and told people they couldn’t understand it - go ask a priest - he’ll tell you what’s in it.


142 posted on 08/01/2009 5:25:34 AM PDT by RoadTest (I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. - John 14:6)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

“Maybe because he wants you to see how a thriving sect of Christianity does it?”

Thriving sect of what? Christianity doesn’t contain priests, nuns, confessionals, prayer beads, statues, magic wafers or Popes. Never did, never will.


143 posted on 08/01/2009 5:28:35 AM PDT by RoadTest (I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. - John 14:6)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Maybe it’s because they go where they think they are needed the most — and are allowed in — or both.


144 posted on 08/01/2009 5:41:51 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20 (There is not enough combined intellect in the beltway to jumpstart a moron.)
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To: ctdonath2

...any many others wish they had waited or at least respect those who do. The media can’t believe it, but there is a hunger out there for morality.


145 posted on 08/01/2009 10:10:15 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: Dr. Sivana

Freedom and faith, not financial gain.

When Protestants created the greatest country the world has ever known there were no Catholics here (far,far less than 1 percent) but we allowed Catholics and Catholic missionaries to come, it eventually led to liberalism, abortion and the 1965 immigration bill to replace the American people with Catholic foreigners but the Protestants believe in freedom so they let it happen.

You don’t want America to spread it’s religious faith to foreign lands, but many Americans hold out the hope that the people of these backward countries can learn to have a personal relationship with God and learn to start living as free men, not as sheep under the rule of an oppressive elite.

If Protestants can figure out how to get Catholics to stop voting for abortion then America can stop that abomination just as if we can make more third world hell holes Protestant then they can improve their nations and make them more like America.

Could Mexico and Italy use some missionaries to bring those people to God, of course, since we are all Americans here I think that we can agree on that.


146 posted on 08/01/2009 10:12:52 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12
The Catholics who founded Maryland granted religious freedom (1649 Religious Toleration Act). When Puritans were chased out of Virginia, moved to Maryland, and took over, they outlawed Catholicism. That might explain your purported 1%.

Charles Carroll, a Catholic, was a signer of the Declaration of Independence. So there were Catholics of importance and they weren't necessarily Tories.

The U.S. government actually subsidized Catholic missionaries to the American Indian territories because of their success.

Theodore Roosevelt, when hearing a disparaging remark about the "papists," claimed admiration, as they were the only people who could civilize the people in the Far East (from the landmark book "Theodore Rex," TR was 100 times the man that McKinley was).

I have demonstrated, and you did not rebut, that the Republican Party has not always been the socially conservative or pro-life party. It became moreso only after serious Catholics joined. You also seem indifferent to southern Protestant Democrats not voting Republican in most elections, (excepting '64) as they tended to go Third Party with Thurmond and Wallace. They even voted for STEVENSON over Ike!

The ONLY people who are trying to apply the Constitution in the Supreme Court are the Catholics. NONE of the non-Catholics on the Court are of any use at all.

You don’t want America to spread it’s religious faith to foreign lands

You must be joking! Our "Faith" is secular humanism. Even in the old days, American Protestantism was split among widely divergent and conflicting schools of thought, including Anglican, Calvinist, Quaker and Lutheran. We have abortion on demand, aggressive homosexual promotion, widespread divorce and shacking up, due to a general failure in the western world to obey the Natural Law the Creator put in men's hearts.

Do you really want to America to spread its faith, as it's currently constituted, abroad?
147 posted on 08/01/2009 12:03:47 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: NYer

Great...the youth need real men to look up to...especially in sports. I just showed my son this headline.


148 posted on 08/01/2009 6:15:58 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: constitutiongirl
Just because she has $2,000.00 worth of talent up front doesn’t mean she’s not a nice girl.:)

But it makes it really hard to be a nice boy...

So look, if I REALLY like ham sandwiches, but I can't have one for a few hours, and I gonna put the ham sandwich away in the fridge where I can't see it until I devour it later, or am I gonna walk around with it dangling in my face?

149 posted on 08/03/2009 5:31:41 AM PDT by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
You must be joking! Our "Faith" is secular humanism.

Not mine and not the missionaries, if we can win the Catholic vote as much as we win the Protestant vote then we could stop the domination of the Democrat Party and their abortion agenda.

150 posted on 08/04/2009 3:42:59 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: Antoninus

Obviously, one can correct ten people’s minor errors more readily than one can correct one person’s major error, and thereby save ten times as many souls from the pit with the same effort.


151 posted on 08/10/2009 12:20:06 PM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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