Posted on 07/14/2009 4:03:41 PM PDT by Polarik
PS don’t be fooled by the size difference, I had cut off the top of mine when I scanned it originally.
PS don’t be fooled by the size difference, I had cut off the top of mine when I scanned it originally. Not cut the document, I just didn’t have the top portion over the scanner plate I think.
How is this done via Internet? ... And how would HI verify requests then send a secure copy over the INternet. I’m quite confused on this!
Right. Good thing you aren't running. LOL!
Part of the ordering process can be done through the internet I guess, email. Here is the site link with the instructions: http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/vital_records.html
LMAO... well apparently it doesn’t mater! Obama did it right? (rolls eyes)
How could an Internet copy be a valid CoLB? What would require such an unsecure copy?
Thanks for the ping to the new information in this post.
It certainly seems as if Obama is making efforts to expunge the COLB and throw the whole business down the Memory Hole.
But that ain’t gonna happen. Too many Obamabots have been citing the COLB as proof that anyone who raises the issue must be a nutcase.
Well, where do we stand now, then, with their chief piece of “evidence” pulled right out from under their feet?
Internet ORDERED copy. It gets mailed out in hard copy format. I think we are just miss understanding the difference here.
They don’t provide internet copies. They may in limited instances take an order from the internet. It says that on the site anyway.
A copy with out the physical raised seal would not be valid. Can’t get that off the internet! LOL
[[ The internet copy is something they would use for orders coming through an internet source. The Mail is for one being processed through a snail mail order. Then there is the front counter. Thats what I was told, I have no reason to believe this kind helpful lady was miss-representing anything. ]]
Sorry about that! Does it make sense now? I can hax cumuncation skiltz.
As long as we're standing, I suggest that we gather near the front doors of your local NBC, ABC, and CBS news aflliliates, and protest
"Obama may be a citizen of the world, but he's an illegal alien here."
Our Fraudulent President proffered fraudulent evidence.
not in the USA.
Bump for later read .............. FRegards
Your good, will read more of it later. Very interesting stuff and hope it leads to more on O.
I think it was the Certificate of Live Birth, that is the original birth certificate, that some claim they stopped issuing in something like 2001. Not the Certification of Live Birth.
The problem with even that notion is that the Hawaii Home Lands program's website says that they require, or at least prefer the Certificate, and gives instructions on how to obtain a copy of it. OR IT DID. I just checked the link above, and it now says that they no longer issue Certificates of Live Birth.
Basically, in the past, it took longer, but cost the same. It took longer because they have to physically pull the original, or a microfilm copy of it and make a copy of that.
These days they could, and may, scan the original into an image file, store that, and call it up as needed, as easily as generating the Certification. The difference would be that the image would take a lot more storage to store an image, rather than the information contained on the Certification. But either way, all you'd have to do would be to print the image, or the information and the form it goes on, on demand, then stamping it with the seal, date and signature bloc.
The Home Lands Program site linked above, now says:
The Department of Hawaiian Home Lands accepts both Certificates of Live Birth (original birth certificate) and Certifications of Live Birth because they are official government records documenting an individual’s birth. The Certificate of Live Birth generally has more information which is useful for genealogical purposes as compared to the Certification of Live Birth which is a computer-generated printout that provides specific details of a person’s birth. Although original birth certificates (Certificates of Live Birth) are preferred for their greater detail, the State Department of Health (DOH) no longer issues Certificates of Live Birth. When a request is made for a copy of a birth certificate, the DOH issues a Certification of Live Birth.
As I say that is recent change, sometime this year, well after the Birth Certificate controversy became widespread.
It used to say. "In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green," the qualifications state. "This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL."
Sounds like the fix is in in Hawaii. However the original, long form, certificate, does still exist in their files, or so they say.
Good stuff, good doctor.
I’ve made sure to add you to the “usurper” blogroll in the I.O. Sidebar at http://investigatingobama.blogspot.com
I’m concerned that something big is afoot — some sort of switch may have been pulled — by good guys or bad. I’ll probably comment there.
Thank you very much.
The question in this case would not relate to how many servicemen asked but rather - do they have standing. One may argue that a serviceman may have standing due to the fact that he is directly affected by the O’s orders and must place his life on the line. As those powers that be have already ruled that your average Joe does not have standing then I think they will rule against this Major -nice try and under a fairminded system I think it would be a winner but not with the Democrats leanign over SCOTUS’ shoulders.
Mel
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