Posted on 06/09/2009 8:47:35 AM PDT by Davy Buck
My oh my, what would the critics, the Civil War publications, publishers, and bloggers do if it weren't for the bad boys of the Confederacy and those who study them and also those who wish to honor their ancestors who fought for the Confederacy?
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That's just one of the errors; the entire account has problems with accuracy. But in all honesty I think that the best evidence that it is all imaginary is the fact that Douglas Southall Freeman mentions Lee's wartime servant in passing in his biography, and it wasn't Willie Mack Lee.
I have always stated that I consider the south method of secession to be unsound and stupid but I have also said they had a right to secede, they just did it wrong.
What would have been the "sound and smart" method?
The way James Madison believed:
"It is the nature & essence of a compact that it is equally obligatory on the parties to it, and of course that no one of them can be liberated therefrom without the consent of the others, or such a violation or abuse of it by the others, as will amount to a dissolution of the compact...no State can at pleasure release itself therefrom, and set up for itself. The compact can only be dissolved by the consent of the other parties, or by usurpations or abuses of power justly having that effect. It will hardly be contended that there is anything in the terms or nature of the compact, authorizing a party to dissolve it at pleasure. It is indeed inseparable from the nature of a compact, that there is as much right on one side to expound it & to insist on its fulfilment according to that exposition, as there is on the other so to expound it as to furnish a release from it, and that an attempt to annul it by one of the parties, may present to the other, an option of acquiescing in the annulment, or of preventing it as the one or the other course may be deemed the lesser evil."
laughing AT you, LIAR.
free dixie,sw
even if the group wasn't made up solely of DYs, your sort would be "the butt of jokes" & NOT believed by intelligent people, as most of your number are so OBVIOUS in their BIGOTRY.
free dixie,sw
A sound and smart method, that’s easy use the halls of congress to air your grievances and sue for secession the same way we allow states to be admitted only in reverse.
Start with a bill calling for the secession of a state and have a debate on why that state should be allowed to secede, the whole notion of secession being a unilateral and individual state right is wrong.
The government allows states to join the union and the government has the right to allow states to secede, the individual states don’t get to decide weather or not they can be part of the United States. Say tomorrow Cuba decided it was part of the United States of America, and that Fidel Castro was it’s governor, and he appointed senators and representatives to be part of our congress, how long do you suppose that sort of charade would be allowed to happen?
It’s the same with secession, once joined to the Union it takes the votes of the union to allow secession just as it does with admission....
when his wife inherited several slaves at the death of her parents, REL "manumitted them", even though the slaves were NOT HIS to free. (freeing HER slaves caused him no end of "marital problems" for quite a while = the Lees were POOR & she NEEDED the money.)
fyi, VA has always had special "femme sole" laws, which (oddly enough) do NOT end upon marriage of the lady.
free dixie,sw
let's see, so far, you've tried:
1.outright denial of your LIES = NOBODY believed you,
2."changing the subject" away from your LIES = NOBODY believed you
and
3. making SILLY/FALSE accusations against someone else = NOBODY believed you.
perhaps, it's simply time for you to TRY TELLING THE TRUTH & APOLOGIZING to EVERYONE for your KNOWING LIES.
free dixie,sw
further, are you REALLY dumb enough not to UNDERSTAND the TENTH AMENDMENT to the Constitution and/OR do you hope that someone/ANYONE here will believe you on any subject, as you are a LIAR & NOTHING more than that???
free dixie,sw
So on what date DID you order the book?
fwiw, "family problems" (four deaths & two elders to the hospital/nursing home) have taken MOST of my time & energy. HUMILIATING N-S, while important, wasn't anywhere near first on my agenda for the last year.
free dixie,sw
...and yet you take the time to humiliate yourself almost daily...
Lee’s servants during the war are pretty well documented, not least in the letters that Lee himself wrote. He started the war with one servant, Perry, as his body servant and another, Meredith, as his cook. Later Meredith left and was replaced by George. They were paid $8.20 a month each. Lee mentions them often in his letters back to his wife.
The biggest bigot around here is you.
Where's the book?
free dixie,sw
Indeed it has. Here, let me remind you:
Prelude to the Civil War; Four states mark the 150th anniversary of John Brown’s raidMarch 23. It's been 93 days.March 23, 2009 11:27:39 AM CDT · 148 of 290
stand watie to Non-Sequitur
laughing AT you.
the FACT is that i just re-ordered the book from Inter-library Loan. (just for YOU, i made a trip to the county library, so that i can "rub your nose in" your LIE.)
as you are smart enough to KNOW, i cannot remember page numbers, any more than you can remember buying your book from EBAY, since they HAD none to sell, LIAR. (fwiw, i believe the eBay "customer service representative" over the "word of honor" of a known/confirmed DAMNyankee propagandist/LIAR.)
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Maniacally, no doubt.
So, if I understand your logic, the South was not wrong to secede, but only in the manner in which it did so.
If that is correct, then you do not have a problem with secession in and of itself.
Louisiana ratified 17 Feb 1865 AD. The legislature that ratified was elected 5 Sep 1864 AD.
Both those states, as well as Arkansas were operating under Lincoln's 10% plan and the provision that they abolish slavery and renounce secession. That was one of Lincoln's few conditions for re-admittance. They were pro-union governments, not former confederates. That came following the conclusion of hostilities under Johnson's reconstruction plan that was actually harsher than Lincoln's.
BTW. Do you know who the Governor of Tennessee was when the legislature there ratified the 13th?
A man walked into a Topeka, Kansas Kwik Shop and asked for all the money in the cash drawer. Apparently, the take was too small so he tied up the store clerk and worked the counter himself for three hours until police showed up and grabbed him.
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