[Politically Correct]

Because there’s nothing more frustrating to a teacher than students that don’t want to learn.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

Teachers avoid combat zones, this shouldn’t be a mystery!

[silverleaf]

Parents do the same thing.
Don’t they, mr and mrs obama?

[nmh]

“A study forthcoming in the Journal of Labor Economics suggests that high-quality teachers tend to leave schools that experience inflows of black students. According to the study’s author, C. Kirabo Jackson (Cornell University), this is the first study to show that a school's racial makeup may have a direct impact on the quality of its teachers. “

That's no surprise.

Even good black teachers want students who WANT to learn and are well BEHAVED. It's beyond race. It's more of a cultural issue ... for example who can forget the phrase that “that's real WHITE of you” - when someone does well or does the right thing.

At some point the black race has to do some soul searching and move beyond blaming skin color. Condi Rice, Sowell Thomas, Clarence Thomas all went through ugly name calling like being an “Uncle Tom” etc.. They were accused of “selling out” to the “whites”. Why? Because they are accomplished. There seems to be a DOWNWARD push on blacks to STAY DOWN and that since that is what the racists, Sharptons, and Wrights WANT OF THEM.

[TSgt]

student characteristics

As in thugs without self-control?

I graduated from a predominantly black high school. It's as close to being incarcerated as I ever want to get. I missed 40+ days of school my senior year because I often feared for my life and still graduated in the top 7% of my class. Don't paint the teachers as racists if they, like me, simply want to avoid violence.

[Radl]

Just what it is about black students that pushes high-quality teachers away is hard to pin down,

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Your kidding me right?

[DuncanWaring]

Ping.

[theDentist]

So, all you teachers in schools with a high number of minority students are apparently low-quality instructors... just thought you should know what people who study these things think of you despite your best efforts and dedication to your students.

[central_va]

[fleagle]

Another pointless education study, IMO. We can't blame teachers, or act like it's some kind of big surprise, that most would rather not teach in an under-performing school district where kids are unmotivated and parents are either non-existent, uninvolved, or downright hostile towards education and educators. Places where school boards are petty tyrants, resources are limited, and each day is a struggle just to manage the classroom let alone teach anything worthwhile.

Thank God there are still many excellent teachers in some of our most under-performing schools, but I don't blame the ones who flee.

[doodad]

Just what it is about black students that pushes high-quality teachers away is hard to pin down, Dr. Jackson says

Go ahead and give it a shot Dr. Since the black teachers left too we know it can't be racism. Could it be culture?

[shag377]

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[blam]

Forty seven percent (47%) of the residents of New Orleans cannot read or write.

[Patrsup]

“Just what it is about black students that pushes high-quality teachers away is hard to pin down, Dr. Jackson says. It could be that teachers are reacting to notions about black students’ achievement or income levels.”

Notions about achievement or income levels?

How about “Teacher effectiveness, as measured by teachers’ previous ability to improve student test scores”

The study answers itself. Probably spent taxpayer money for it also.

Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. It comes into us at midnight very clean. It’s perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we’ve learned something from yesterday. - John Wayne

[uncommonsense]

Maybe they grow weary of the constant barrage of racial epithets and get no support from the administration (according to the experiences of 2 of my teacher friends).

[Altura Ct.]

A study forthcoming in the Journal of Labor Economics suggests that high-quality teachers tend to leave schools that experience inflows of black students

Gee, imagine that?

[CTOCS]

Captain Obvious - please pick up the white courtesy phone!

[B-Chan]

high-quality teachers tend to leave schools that experience inflows of black students

LOL Ya think? Gee, I wonder why?

[bvw]

Just what it is about black students that pushes high-quality teachers away is hard to pin down, Dr. Jackson says. It could be that teachers are reacting to notions about black students' achievement or income levels.

Absolutely ignorant and clueless. Three days of teaching in real classrooms would tell the tale, yet the researchers are stumped! Willful ignorance because of political correctness.

Eighty percent, 80%, of black students are without real Dads. They arrive at school with almost internal discipline. It is a constant strenuous effort to maintain any discipline in such classes. It is the broken family that is the biggest factor, but race factors too.

Blacks are taught by cultural clues, constant and incessant that they are victims. The state of being a victims is intrinsically an irresponsible state. By cultural clues blacks are taught that irresponsible behaviors are "Black".

In such classrooms the teacher, any teacher, becomes exhausted or just a constant reactionary disciplinarian. In either case not much teaching gets done. Teachers with a pride in being able to teach with almost no exceptions leave to districts and schools where the students have self-discipline and the culture encourages such self-discipline.

What is the cure? Outlaw bastardy and start prosecuting it. Legalize drugs -- many fathers are jailbirds. Jail any man who fathers a child until he marries the mom.

Hire disciplinarians, not teachers. Behavior modifiers. The level of teaching doesn't require teachers in these schools -- but the students need to learn discipline. Most of the effort and school day must be spent teaching self-discipline, proper decorum in the classroom. Only when the student is capable of sitting at a desk for ninety minutes on task, without a single disruption is it useful to move them to real classrooms.

When should this start? Third grade!

I've subbed in a number of districts at all grade levels. This is what I saw, this is what I have learned, this is what I think is the only way to recover the our next generation.

[KSCITYBOY]

Having known & discussed this with a few teachers here is what I have heard: Minority administrators treat white teachers like crap, giving bad grades brings naming calling and blame from the parents, physical harm is a real concern, frustration of working in a environment where education isn't valued by the students or the parents (and sometimes the admin). Etc...