Posted on 05/23/2009 12:42:41 PM PDT by chevydude26
I am not associated at all with Lonegan's campaign but I am a nj resident and would like to spark a conversation from other freepers aware of the current battle that is a microcosm of the battle between republicans and conservatives. Christie is the establishment republican while Lonegan so far has shown himself to be a true conservative who wants to institute a flat tax of 2.9% in new jersey and wants to cut our horrible spending here in new jersey.
Would love all your input and if there are pro christie guys i'd love to hear from you guys too...there might be information i don't know about lonegan that could change my mind
I support Lonegan.
i just know the typical nj republican...they are going to think Christie has a better shot...even though lonegan is beating corzine too but its by a smaller margin
so what lets vote on principle and not have a middle of the road moderate who won’t really change anything...we don’t need another whitman
the rumor mill states, if Lonegan beats Christie in the primary, the state GOP is going to pull the same bullshit they pulled against Schundler and not support Lonegan.
I don’t know how true that it but that sounds about the shenanigans these losers would do.
I’ve supported Lonegan since February, before I heard anything about Christie.
I liked what I heard, and still do.
I also signed the petition so Lonegan could be on the ballot.
I think that Lonegan would lose the general election to Corzine, who will campaign on abortion, and little else.
Lonegan’s zero abortions position is too hard line for South Dakota, let alone New Jersey.
However, I doubt that Chris Christie is worth electing, so I will vote for Lonegan anyway on June 2nd, and hope for the best.
that would be retarded of the g.o.p to do...we’ve literally got corzine easily defeated he’s damaged goods...same thing in new york with paterson.
and as far as the abortion issue...we would have to overturn roe v wade federally or he will have to invoke the 10th amendment and assert our state rights...but we can have that battle later...we need to fix our spending and tax issue first
ML/NJ
You know that and I know that but it’s all about control.
Let him do it. The sad fact is that there is NOTHING the Governor of NJ can do about abortion until some US Supreme Court reverses Roe. Until that time, maybe we can convince folks that the increase in GovernmentEmployees per Citizen is unsustainable and must be reversed.
ML/NJ
i’m looking at christies on the issues and some of them are laughable...on education he says this lmao
“Change will only come with increased accountability and greater parental involvement.”
so uh no vouchers?? no cutting down the board of education?
i hate this mushy moderate stuff that doesn’t amount to anything
i hear lonegan and he offers actual conservatie solutions to issues
what are the latest polls saying?
i heard lonegan made a greet speech on sunday or something but i can’t find any video on it
i want to find it and post it on free republic...i found this one though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3k0jvsjs8Y&feature=related
What did the gop pull against Schundler? Inquiring minds what to know since there have been some mysterious things that happened to some Republicans in Massachusetts. The Boston Globe (RIP) would always run some embarassing story about the Republican three weeks before the election. Since a couple of these shenanigans happened in the primaries, I wondered if these were other Republican competitors who tipped of the Globe.
“The sad fact is that there is NOTHING the Governor of NJ can do about abortion until some US Supreme Court reverses Roe.”
It would be a good idea for Steve Lonegan to say that.
A large majority of the women of New Jersey do not want their right to kill their unborn children taken away from them.
They voted overwhelmingly for Jim McGreevey over Brett Schundler in 2001, and I think a similar thing will happen again this year.
Lonegan has produced one nasty ad after the other.
He spends more time slamming and slashing Christie than he does attacking Corzine.
Ugh
My vote goes to Christie.
screw those joizy whores...
but on a serious note...i hate sometimes how voters are uninformed...like do you no realize since roe v wade only judges have the power to change social issues...
i think right now our deficit and economy trumps abortion issues...if corzine runs on abortion he’s a tool...
“Lonegan has produced one nasty ad after the other.
He spends more time slamming and slashing Christie than he does attacking Corzine.
Ugh
My vote goes to Christie.”
christie is the one lying in his ads talking about 70% tax increase...2.9% of like 30,000 dollars is a few hundred bucks that they will get back in their eic’s anyway...
christie is the one being misleading in his ads...lonegan has facts in his ads and an actual plan with numbers
christie just says...”hey i’ll get around to cutting taxes sometime in the next 4 years”
christie is just corzine in a different suit...
“Lonegan has produced one nasty ad after the other. He spends more time slamming and slashing Christie than he does attacking Corzine.”
You must live in a different state than I do!
If Christie had run a clean campaign primarily against Corzine, I’d vote for him. Other things being equal, I’d like to elect a Republican Governor, and Lonegan is the Don Quixote of the pro-life movement. Christie’s attack ads against Lonegan have been some of the most scurilous garbage I’ve ever seen. I’m not sure now who I will vote for in November if Christie is the nominee. Probably for the Libertarian, whoever that is.
“christie is just corzine in a different suit...”
Unfortunately correct.
People mention how the NJGOP establishment screwed conservative Bret Schnduler... That was true in 2001, but in 2005, I blame Longean's ego-trip bid for Governor as the reason Schnduler lost. Schnudler was polling dead even with "moderate" establishment choice Doug Forrester in the primary, and had statewide name recognition. Then little known small town mayor Longean gets in the race, has no funds and no shot at winning, comes in a distant 4th place in the GOP primary with 8%, but manages to pry enough conservative votes from Schundler to let Forrester squeak ahead of him and win the nomination. I believe anyone has the right to run, but I think there's infinitely more evidence Longean was the spoiler than some freepers claim about State Senator Bill Brady causing Topinka's nomination because he wouldn't "get out of way" for unelectable Noshowberweis in the 2006 Illinois governor primary.
Aside from being elected mayor of a small town, Longean has tried his hand at higher office twice, and done very poorly in both campaigns. First he tried for Congressman in NJ's 9th District, and then sought the 2005 Republican nomination for Governor. He did succeed in getting elected mayor of Bogata, a town of 7,000 people. As I've noted in the past, that may be a springboard to statewide office in a rural state like Alaska, but it's hardly a blip on the radar in the ultra-urbanized state of New Jersey. Schnudler, by contrast, was mayor of a city with over 200,000 people. The situation is not comparable at all aside from the fact they were both mayor.
I'm also still wondering how much of a RINO Christie is. The phrase has been thrown around on FR so much that it's almost become meaningless. It could vary all the way from 1) Mushy Moderate-Conservative Norm Coleman type who will do the right thing roughly 70% of the time, 2) Worthless "centrist" Steve Sauerberg type who has no position on any issue besides "Democrats are bad and corrupt", or 3) Obnoxious left-wing Linc Chafee/Mark Kirk type who tries to outliberal the RATs from time to time and only agrees with "his" own party about 15-30% of the time. ('RINO' could also mean "conservative who agrees with me 90% of the time but opposed me on my pet issue", but I assume that doesn't apply in that case)
Where Christie falls on that spectrum certainly affects whether I'd support him. Type 1 would get my vote in the primary if he's the only viable choice, Type 2 would get my vote in the general election only if he has a good chance at stopping a socialist RAT from winning, and Type 3 is unacceptable for me under any circumstance.
There is also a third candidate in the primary, State Assemblyman Rick Merkt. Anyone know where he stands on the political spectrum and how good of a chance he has? I bet he has a larger constituency than Longean in any case.
Can't say I'm too happy with any of the choices for NJ Governor right now.
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