[unkus]

Isn’t the F-22 getting cut?

[freedumb2003]

I am SO gonna analyze this.

Before analysis, I do want to note that the F-22 is designed for BVR.

But this should be great :)

[DallasDeb]

My son trained on the T-38. He loved it.

[gridlock]

On any given Sunday...

[RaceBannon]

it was proved long ago that the F-5, with the right pilot, can out manuever an F-15 and shoot it down.

It is all about the Pilot and his skilllevel

The F-22 has NOT been around long enough to know it’s tough spots, but the F-5 is ancient, aggressive, and manuverable

[Logic n' Reason]

Not to worry...the pilot in the ‘22 was afraid to “shoot down” one of the Thunderbirds!!

[freedumb2003]

I get it now — the T38 got inside the curve of the F-22. We always forget the advantages of a craft than can fly “slowly.”

The F-22 should have used his ability to change the delta.

Of course, having never one beyond simulators what the heck do I know?

Nut that does bring up the question — could an F-16 defeat an F-22 using similar tactics?

[Crazieman]

I find it amusing that its HUGE NEWS when an F22 is ‘shot down’ in training exercises.

I think it diminishes their kill ratio to about 10000:1

[Hodar]

Sure, occassionally one aircraft will get 'lucky'; but a single fight does not a battle make. Consider:

During Exercise Northern Edge 2006 in Alaska in early June, the F-22 proved its mettle against as many as 40 "enemy aircraft" during simulated battles. The Raptor achieved a 108-to-zero kill ratio at that exercise. But the capabilities of the F-22 go beyond what it can do. It is also able to help other aircraft do better.

USAF Link

Sure, this may have happened as shown; but in 99.9% of the cases the aircraft would have been destroyed before it even 'saw' the F-22. Being armed to the teeth, invisible to radar, and extremely maneurvable has it's advantages.

[NELSON111]

BTTFL

[Mr. Jeeves]

Lends credence to my theory that the F-22 isn’t all it’s cracked up to be, hence the cancellation. It’s better than anything we have today, but not advanced enough to justify its huge cost.

[Don Corleone]

Big Deal! I killed a sparrow (not the missile the bird) with my T-33! Got one with a T-28 too. Stunk to high heaven. /sarc

[Sudetenland]

Comment here what I commented on youtube:

We know this is what it is purported to be exactly how. Maybe it is, but not having been born yesterday, I know that things aren't always what others claim they are.

A sub-minute clip from a gun camera showing a small blip being locked onto is meaningless.

[TonyInOhio]

Neil Armstrong once said (sorry, I don’t have the cite at hand) that of all the aircraft and spacecraft he flew (and he flew about everything) the T-38 was his favorite. Guess there was a good reason. :)

[Centurion2000]

Ok, he got missile lock.

Let's change the game .... 100 miles apart at 600mph closing at 40,000 feet ... fight's on.

T-38 is TOAST.

[Bailee]

F-22 in Video did not appear to aggressively be trying to evade the T-38.

Maybe two tight circle at not much altitude variation.

Also Video not a continual feed.

[JohnCliftn]

The humble stone-in-the-hand can kill the most sophisticated machine guns, and the ancient ballista can kill the most fearsome tank, given certain circumstances.

But a pacifist-sounding wimp can kill us all with lofty appeasement when he is given command.

[omega4179]

Glad they cut that boondoggle.

[pallis]

Thank goodness for training exercises. Will the military still be able to afford them after 0’s cuts?

[The Shrew]

I'm no aviator, but, since when do F-5A Trainers have Heads Up Display that looks like an F-16? Just askin.....

Regards,

TS