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Safari 4 Public Beta is a UI disaster
Mac Daily News ^ | 02/28/2009

Posted on 02/28/2009 3:41:57 PM PST by Swordmaker

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i agree... and had already implemented the Terminal commands necessary to return to a more coherent Tab system where the tabs are not divorced from the Window they are related to be such a distance as when they are put on the title bar. The quarter inch of screen acreage is not as important as maintaining that immediate connection.

I also disliked the resizing of the tabs as you added tabs... returning to the previous method solved that as well.

Seeking out the rotating activity circle at the end of the URL address space to indicate loading time was also a problem... it is hard to find. So I returned to the blue barometer bar as well. Much better. I still get the phenomenal speed of Safari 4 but the better, not new and improved, User Interface of Safari 3.

One thing that is still lacking, though is the reload, stop loading button that had been moved to the URL address field... it is not available to be added to the Tool Bar. RATS.

1 posted on 02/28/2009 3:41:57 PM PST by Swordmaker
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To: 1234; 50mm; 6SJ7; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; aristotleman; af_vet_rr; Aggie Mama; ...
How to change Safari 4 beta to have the original User Interface... that in my opinion works better. PING!


Safari User Interface RE-improvement Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

2 posted on 02/28/2009 3:46:01 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

I like the new tabs feature with them on top. I hope they keep it in the release


3 posted on 02/28/2009 3:48:07 PM PST by hugorand
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To: Swordmaker

Mandriva or bust.


4 posted on 02/28/2009 3:48:27 PM PST by Force of Truth (Sarah Palin in 2012!!!!!! WOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Force of Truth

openSuSE 11.1 :) (former Mandrake user)


5 posted on 02/28/2009 3:50:40 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Swordmaker
I don't mind the tabs, frankly. Meanwhile, that browser is scary fast. How'd they do it? Stuff just pops on screen. It's many times faster than IE7 on WinXP. Stable, too.
6 posted on 02/28/2009 3:51:10 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (1st call: Abbas. 1st interview: Al Arabiya. 1st energy decision: halt drilling in UT. Arabs 1st!)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

I love it!!! On my MacBook.


7 posted on 02/28/2009 3:53:15 PM PST by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: Swordmaker
i agree... and had already implemented the Terminal commands necessary to return to a more coherent Tab system where the tabs are not divorced from the Window they are related to be such a distance as when they are put on the title bar. The quarter inch of screen acreage is not as important as maintaining that immediate connection.

I also disliked the resizing of the tabs as you added tabs... returning to the previous method solved that as well.

Seeking out the rotating activity circle at the end of the URL address space to indicate loading time was also a problem... it is hard to find. So I returned to the blue barometer bar as well. Much better. I still get the phenomenal speed of Safari 4 but the better, not new and improved, User Interface of Safari 3.

I also think that the relocation of the tabs is not an improvement.

I seem to have gotten used to the fact that the spell, preview, and post buttons grow with zoom, tho - and wouldn't change it. Even if you did tell me how to do so . . .

I think that at some point it would be good to revert back to Safari 3.x and remind myself exactly what the differences are, and how the speed is affected by the switch.


8 posted on 02/28/2009 3:59:33 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: Swordmaker

Ok Sword, how do I make the necessary changes from a Windows machine? I know that Macs have Terminal.app but what can I use to fix things with Windows?


9 posted on 02/28/2009 4:01:26 PM PST by MissouriConservative (WHO IS JOHN GALT?)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

You should try FireFox on XP. More friendly and customizable, far more so than Internet Explorer.


10 posted on 02/28/2009 4:06:02 PM PST by wastedyears (April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
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To: Swordmaker

I will never touch a beta.


11 posted on 02/28/2009 4:07:48 PM PST by DemonDeac
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I like the new tabs feature with them on top. I hope they keep it in the release

I think it needs to be a choice. It is actually easily selectable via a "tweaks" menu that can be added to your Safari 4...

Turning on the hidden "Tweaks" Menu".

12 posted on 02/28/2009 4:29:25 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

Do you know of a means to block ads in Safari on a windows box?


13 posted on 02/28/2009 4:30:53 PM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: wastedyears

You should try FireFox on XP. More friendly and customizable, far more so than Internet Explorer.
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Uses less memory too. One time it was using one third the memory of IE7


14 posted on 02/28/2009 4:33:41 PM PST by dennisw (Archimedes--- Give me a place to stand, and I will move the Earth)
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I use Firefox on both my Mac at home and my PC in the office. When I get the Windows Harddisk set up for my Mac (it’s a requirement from the office to connect with their FTP, I will have Firefox there as well.

I tried using Safari when I got this Mac two months ago, but it didn’t seem to be much of an improvement and I had gotten used to Firefox, so I just switched back.


15 posted on 02/28/2009 4:46:33 PM PST by Ronin
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To: Swordmaker
I like it just as it is.

Apple produces a beta with less bugs
than Microsoft has with a final product.

The only change, I found was the default
of left and not center on web pages.

fixed with {center} & {/center}


16 posted on 02/28/2009 5:05:57 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Swordmaker

I have heard mixed comments on Safari 4. Some really like it, while others hate it. This is the norm when any major interface change comes down the pike.

I don’t have the guts to install it yet... When I did the Safari 3 beta, it hosed a couple of programs - including one pretty important one. That cost me. It’s the whole updated rootkit that causes the problem.


17 posted on 02/28/2009 5:10:40 PM PST by TheBattman (Pray for our country....)
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I like the rendering speed of Safari 4

It makes my 1Ghz PowerBook running Leopard, Blaze !

I do however miss the blue thermometer.


18 posted on 02/28/2009 5:11:47 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Swordmaker

I’d like to use Safari more, but now only do so on my Ipod Touch 32g. Reason: Bookmarks bar location. I’d rather use a side-bar, and with folders. Maybe I’m missing the process for how to use that option, but without it I’ll continue to use Firefox on my MacBook Pro. The speed and other features of Safari would, without that glitch, move me in that direction.


19 posted on 02/28/2009 5:20:33 PM PST by vox_freedom ("If God be for us, who is against us?" -- Romans 8:31)
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One thing that is still lacking, though is the reload, stop loading button that had been moved to the URL address field... it is not available to be added to the Tool Bar. RATS.

If you go to View-Customize Toolbar, you can drag the default buttons to it which includes the refresh/stop button.
20 posted on 02/28/2009 5:36:30 PM PST by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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