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i agree... and had already implemented the Terminal commands necessary to return to a more coherent Tab system where the tabs are not divorced from the Window they are related to be such a distance as when they are put on the title bar. The quarter inch of screen acreage is not as important as maintaining that immediate connection.

I also disliked the resizing of the tabs as you added tabs... returning to the previous method solved that as well.

Seeking out the rotating activity circle at the end of the URL address space to indicate loading time was also a problem... it is hard to find. So I returned to the blue barometer bar as well. Much better. I still get the phenomenal speed of Safari 4 but the better, not new and improved, User Interface of Safari 3.

One thing that is still lacking, though is the reload, stop loading button that had been moved to the URL address field... it is not available to be added to the Tool Bar. RATS.

1 posted on 02/28/2009 3:41:57 PM PST by Swordmaker
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How to change Safari 4 beta to have the original User Interface... that in my opinion works better. PING!


Safari User Interface RE-improvement Ping!

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2 posted on 02/28/2009 3:46:01 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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I like the new tabs feature with them on top. I hope they keep it in the release


3 posted on 02/28/2009 3:48:07 PM PST by hugorand
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To: Swordmaker

Mandriva or bust.


4 posted on 02/28/2009 3:48:27 PM PST by Force of Truth (Sarah Palin in 2012!!!!!! WOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!)
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I don't mind the tabs, frankly. Meanwhile, that browser is scary fast. How'd they do it? Stuff just pops on screen. It's many times faster than IE7 on WinXP. Stable, too.
6 posted on 02/28/2009 3:51:10 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (1st call: Abbas. 1st interview: Al Arabiya. 1st energy decision: halt drilling in UT. Arabs 1st!)
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To: Swordmaker
i agree... and had already implemented the Terminal commands necessary to return to a more coherent Tab system where the tabs are not divorced from the Window they are related to be such a distance as when they are put on the title bar. The quarter inch of screen acreage is not as important as maintaining that immediate connection.

I also disliked the resizing of the tabs as you added tabs... returning to the previous method solved that as well.

Seeking out the rotating activity circle at the end of the URL address space to indicate loading time was also a problem... it is hard to find. So I returned to the blue barometer bar as well. Much better. I still get the phenomenal speed of Safari 4 but the better, not new and improved, User Interface of Safari 3.

I also think that the relocation of the tabs is not an improvement.

I seem to have gotten used to the fact that the spell, preview, and post buttons grow with zoom, tho - and wouldn't change it. Even if you did tell me how to do so . . .

I think that at some point it would be good to revert back to Safari 3.x and remind myself exactly what the differences are, and how the speed is affected by the switch.


8 posted on 02/28/2009 3:59:33 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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Ok Sword, how do I make the necessary changes from a Windows machine? I know that Macs have Terminal.app but what can I use to fix things with Windows?


9 posted on 02/28/2009 4:01:26 PM PST by MissouriConservative (WHO IS JOHN GALT?)
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To: Swordmaker

I will never touch a beta.


11 posted on 02/28/2009 4:07:48 PM PST by DemonDeac
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Do you know of a means to block ads in Safari on a windows box?


13 posted on 02/28/2009 4:30:53 PM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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I have heard mixed comments on Safari 4. Some really like it, while others hate it. This is the norm when any major interface change comes down the pike.

I don’t have the guts to install it yet... When I did the Safari 3 beta, it hosed a couple of programs - including one pretty important one. That cost me. It’s the whole updated rootkit that causes the problem.


17 posted on 02/28/2009 5:10:40 PM PST by TheBattman (Pray for our country....)
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I like the rendering speed of Safari 4

It makes my 1Ghz PowerBook running Leopard, Blaze !

I do however miss the blue thermometer.


18 posted on 02/28/2009 5:11:47 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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One thing that is still lacking, though is the reload, stop loading button that had been moved to the URL address field... it is not available to be added to the Tool Bar. RATS.

If you go to View-Customize Toolbar, you can drag the default buttons to it which includes the refresh/stop button.
20 posted on 02/28/2009 5:36:30 PM PST by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To me, it seems like Apple had heard that 'Chrome has tabs on top,' but instead of just being honest and admitting that Google got it right, they set a goal for themselves to make as many arbitrary and useless changes as possible so they could still claim they were innovating.
They hire away some programmers from MS? ;')
25 posted on 02/28/2009 6:45:45 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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There, the tabs are the titlebar, leading to a rather schizophrenic UI widget: it has to act as a titlebar and a tab bar, and consequently, does neither of the two very well.

As soon as I saw those tabs, I closed Safari 4 and said "bye-bye".

26 posted on 02/28/2009 7:28:10 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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My only UI problem with Safari 4 is that they removed the blue progress bar from the URL and replaced it with the spinning gear. The tabs are fine, and are actually more coherent from a UI point of view than previous incarnations: given the top-down hierarchy of computer UI design, the way widgets are stacked is important.

Putting the tabs on top means that the URL bar and screen area display below are associated with that tab, borrowing the paradigm of a binder tab system. It makes more sense than putting tabs below the URL bar, even if we’ve had tabs below the URL bar for 20 years.


28 posted on 02/28/2009 8:00:55 PM PST by Terpfen (Ain't over yet, folks. Those 2004 Senate gains are up for grabs in 2 years.)
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I downloaded the tweak menu and it works well. I like the new interface, but then I’m a Mac fanboy. So, I’m waiting for my next marching orders from Apple.


39 posted on 02/28/2009 11:47:52 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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...They suck enough to have come out of Microsoft...

What, Apple can't make a screw up on their own ?
What a crappy UI - has Jobs written all over it. There's probably an Easter egg in there somewhere with his name on it.
41 posted on 03/01/2009 1:03:44 AM PST by ComputerGuy (not my real name)
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I like Google’s implementation of the top tabs a lot better. With Apple’s implementation, there is no area to click on at the top of the window that is not a tab. So if you try to raise a browser window you might accidentally raise to the top another tab that wasn’t the one you intended to look at.


42 posted on 03/01/2009 10:38:13 AM PST by mhx
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Compared to my other browsers Safari 4 is by far the fastest.


44 posted on 03/01/2009 4:26:44 PM PST by Uncle Hal
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