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To: Little Bill; nw_arizona_granny
Thanks for the tips on the sourdough. I am going to try it out. I make homemade bread at least once a week and get my bread flour at Sam's also.

I also add vinegar and a little olive oil. The vinegar not only helps the yeast but it helps the bread resist getting moldy. To much oil in the dough will make the crumb - from a lack of knowing the correct term - course and crumbly. I use no more than a Tbsp of oil in 6 cups of flour dough.

I use to have problems forming the final loaf (after the first rise). I always ended up with creases and cracks in the final baked bread. I was using to much oil when coating the dough for the first rise. I was handeling the dough to much at this point, folding it over and kneading slightly and the oil on the surface of the risen dough acts as a barrier and does not let the dough come together in the final rise - causing the creases. I now use a cooking spray very sparingly on the bowl and then use a paper towel to wipe it into a very thin coating on the bowl and just a spritz on the top of the dough.

After the first rise I just take the bowl turn it upside down, and thump it down on the counter top and let the dough fall to the counter - this is my punch down. I gently turn the mass of dough over so the smooth side is on top and let it sit for a min. or two. At this point I handle the dough as little as possible. If I am going to bake it in a bread pan I just put my open hands on each side of the dough and slowly bring my hands together to get the dough to the width of the pan - same for the length. Gently place the dough in the pan and let it rise.

If I am making a French bread I put my hands on the side and while bringing them together gently stretch the dough to the length I want. Cover and let rise for the second time.

Place in a 425 F oven 15-20 min.

423 posted on 02/10/2009 2:37:33 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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424 posted on 02/10/2009 4:33:54 AM PST by kimmie7 (***even deeper sigh***)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Thanks for the added information, my bread machine book says to add vinegar, but not why and I will cut back on the oil, as I have been far too generous with it.

Good post, thanks for sharing your knowledge.


489 posted on 02/10/2009 2:41:48 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Red_Devil 232; JDoutrider

Red Devil posted some good information about breadmaking that might be of interest to you. Post 423.


612 posted on 02/11/2009 8:07:26 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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