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Is Recession Preparing a New Breed of Survivalist? [Survival Today - an On going Thread #2]
May 05th,2008

Posted on 02/09/2009 12:36:11 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny

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To: Marmolade

Sorry to hear about your dad. This has to be a very stressful time for you and your family. I hope your dad is not suffering.


8,821 posted on 06/08/2009 9:24:26 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: Marmolade; DelaWhere

You are a sweetie, DW, to get that seal info for Marm!


8,822 posted on 06/08/2009 9:26:20 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall

We are so blessed that he is not suffering much pain with his cancer. So far Tylenol has sufficed.

We had a family party for my Mom & Dad’s 60th anniversary this past February and are so glad we decided to go ahead and have it. He’s going to a nursing home today for a few days until we can get things lined up at home with care. The kids are talking about taking him down to one of the ponds by his house to fish - something he loves. He may only be able to sit in the chair for 15 min or so, but I think if we can manage it, he would love it.


8,823 posted on 06/09/2009 4:58:25 AM PDT by Marmolade
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To: Marmolade
We are so blessed that he is not suffering much pain with his cancer. So far Tylenol has sufficed.

That is wonderful! My dad suffered a lot even with morphine. So your dad is indeed very blessed, thank goodness!

The fishing expedition, no matter how short, is very thoughtful.
8,824 posted on 06/09/2009 7:55:41 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall; DelaWhere; Eagle50AE; nw_arizona_granny; Marmolade; Velveeta; upcountry miss

Everyone, I just wanted to thank you all for your prayers. I recently got reduced to only two days per week on dialysis. I’ve stayed on my raw foods diet (about 75% raw) and kept my weight the same for about six months now. God is good!! And you guys are the best!!


8,825 posted on 06/09/2009 8:52:31 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Wonderful news!!! Freeper prayers do their stuff!!


8,826 posted on 06/09/2009 9:07:24 AM PDT by upcountry miss
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To: All; Velveeta; PGalt

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/homepage/Bristol-terror-suspect-concerning-germ-warfare/article-1059206-detail/article.html

Bristol terror suspect had ‘concerning interest in germ warfare’
Monday, June 08, 2009, 15:22

A muslim convert suspected of intending to detonate a suicide bomb in Broadmead also displayed a concerning interest in germ warfare, a court heard.

Winchester Crown Court heard AS level student Isa Ibrahim questioned micro biologist Dr Sarah Maddocks when she gave a lecture into how science could be fun at City of Bristol College in November 2007.

Dr Maddocks told the court that afterwards a student (Ibrahim) approached her, told her that his father was a pathologist who dealt with dead people on a regular basis and a lot have them could have died through bacterial infection.

She told the court: “He had a lot of interest in bacteria. He stated he had been reading books and he knew bacteria had been used to kill people.

“He asked which were the best sorts of bacteria and where they might be found and how they might be used.

“He used Anthrax as an example and I answered his questions in the broadest terms I could.”

Dr Maddocks, who formerly worked at the Government Research Facility at Porton Down, told the court that after fobbing the persistent student off she discussed the matter with her lecturer husband Robert Hawkins, and he reported it to college authorities.

It is claimed 20-year-old Ibrahim became infatuated with the so-called cult of hate against the people of the West, fuelled by Muslim extremists, and he wanted to follow in the footsteps of his 9/11 and 77 hero martyrs by detonating a suicide bomb in the Galleries shopping mall.

Friends said how the drug addict changed his Western-style of dress, grew a long beard and adopted the garb of a Muslim.

When police raided his one-bedroom flat at Comb Paddock, Westbury-on-Trym, in April 2008, in a fridge they found a family-sized biscuit tin containing a home made explosive, an electrical circuit with button detonator and, hanging on the back of a bedroom door, a white cotton vest with panels at the front and back similar to those worn by suicide bombers.

The bomb was called and carried out a controlled explosion of the biscuit tin explosive device in an alleyway near his home.

Ibrahim, a former public schoolboy, denies making an explosive substance with intent, in that he made the explosive hexamethylene triperoxide diamine (HMTD) with the intention to endanger life or cause serious injury to property in the UK.

He also denies the preparation of terrorism acts, in that he researched the manufacture of explosives, bought materials to make them, made them and also bought materials to detonate them – as well as identifying a place to do so.

He has pleaded guilty to simply making an explosive substance.

Mr Hawkins told the court he lectured Ibrahim in AS level biology and described him as an “average student” whose attendance was generally good.

He told the jury he invited his partner Dr Maddocks to give the lecture at the college and he was present when Ibrahim asked her questions afterwards.

He said: “His questions were about bacteria and the history of bacteria usage. He mentioned a book he was reading on Anthrax.

“After Christmas I decided to report it to the authorities at the college.”

Mr Hawkins said that from 2008 he noticed Ibrahim had changed from wearing tracksuits to Muslim dress, and he was slightly more chatty in class.

He said: “He would talk about silly things like computer games and programmes like the X Files.

“He never talked to me about his religion or faith. On occasion he was late and said he had been to prayers.”

Earlier Gemma Angell (corr) told the court she was Ibrahim’s project support worker from October 2007 when he had a flat with Priority Youth Housing Association at St Georges House in St Georges Road, Bristol.

She said she was aware Ibrahim followed the Muslim faith and wore Muslim dress, though he wore Western dress of jeans, T-shirts and trainers on occasion – as he was wearing in court.

Miss Angell confirmed that when Ibrahim arrived at the premises he was a user of heroin and crack cocaine and when more fully into his Muslim practices, visiting his mosque five to six times a day, appeared to be using fewer drugs.

She said Ibrahim’s room was very messy and quite dirty, he had issues with some female staff and he would call her “thick” if she made errors like spelling mistakes.

She said: “He was very intelligent. He was very open to debate things, he was very strong in his opinions and he seemed to be well read and well educated.”

Miss Angell recalled how Ibrahim said it was unfair Muslim people were always portrayed as terrorists, but she didn’t enter into conversations on matters in which she had no knowledge.

She told the court Ibrahim had been aiming to study in Birmingham and had wanted to be re-housed to East Bristol, where he felt he had a lot of connections with the Muslim community.

She described how Ibrahim could be “obnoxious” and he was “quite overly-sexualised” with female staff.

She said she had seen Ibrahim spit at someone, but she had not seen him to be violent.

The court heard housing association staff records showed there was an episode when Ibrahim was very distressed after injecting himself in the leg, when his leg turned blue and he was taken to hospital, thinking he would have to have it amputated.

It turned out that what actually happened was dye from his jeans turned his leg blue, the court heard.

Marco Van-Tintelen (corr), a project manager at St Georges House, said he asked Ibrahim to take down an A4 size poster from his wall, which appeared to be two blocks and a broken aircraft representing the 9/11 terrorist attack.

He recalled an incident in which two female residents had bullied Ibrahim, suggesting he had “man boobs” and he was “so sad”.

The case continues.


8,827 posted on 06/09/2009 9:15:34 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Fantastic! Are you a miracle (and an inspiration on how to live in a way that promotes self-healing)!


8,828 posted on 06/09/2009 9:42:42 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: metmom

I seem to get on the computer a lot and ‘forget’ about the food that is cooking. ;)

“You do?

“Why, I never do that.”

/ducking lightning bolt....<<<

LOL!


8,829 posted on 06/09/2009 12:43:38 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Veterinarian Creates All-Purpose, Honey-Based Remedy to Promote Fast Healing in Horses<<<

That sounds like the goat milk you used to sell “for pet consumption only.”


8,830 posted on 06/09/2009 12:45:08 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: appleseed

2. Talk with employers and school officials about their emergency response plans.<<<

This is an excellent list, thanks for bringing it over.

In the 1950’s, San Diego had an escape plan, it was useless and I went to the school, for they had sent us notices that they would load the kids and move them north on a 2 lane road.

I was told that I would be shot, if I attempted to remove my daughter and bring her home.

It was just the local school.


8,831 posted on 06/09/2009 1:32:47 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: autumnraine

Welcome to the thread.

Check with the druggist before freezing medicines, some of mine cannot even be refrigerated.

I do not know at what age the chemicals change.


8,832 posted on 06/09/2009 1:34:19 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: metmom

It always seemed that unless you could be guaranteed that it would be gone, the longer you took them, the more anti-biotic resistant what was left became.<<<

You really need to talk to your doctor.

I don’t like to take the anti- biotics and fight the doctor on taking them.

There is one [?] that I have to take at times and he says the entire bottle must be taken, to not stop and start again, as it allows the bad guys to get a grip and not die and they are then stronger.

I always reach for the cultured buttermilk the day they end to put the good guys back in my system.


8,833 posted on 06/09/2009 1:34:36 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Rushmore Rocks

He has also recommended to buy the large quantity multi-vitamins that are sold at Sam’s Club, their Sam’s Club brand. He says they are very good, and cost less than the “name” brands. He also recommends Vitamin D3 supplements for immune systems protection.<<<

Last year when my brother was here, we compared his fancy vitamins to my Walmart multi-vitamin, and Walmart at about half the price, had a higher amount of the important ones in it.


8,834 posted on 06/09/2009 1:38:15 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

Well, yesterday late, I got the seed potatoes I had ordered. I am extremely impressed with not only the service but the quality of the seed potatoes from Ronniger Potato Farm. - http://www.ronnigers.com/index.html They are going on my recommend list! I have not seen the quality in any of the local stores (when they did have them) no dehydration, scab, physical damage and loaded with nice ready to burst eyes.<<<<

That is good to know, I have read their catalogs and been tempted over the years to order from them.

I am so glad that you got your order.


8,835 posted on 06/09/2009 1:40:19 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Yes, I’ve found the same thing. Why pay for Centrum’s or One-a-Day’s advertising bill?


8,836 posted on 06/09/2009 1:42:31 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: Eagle50AE

Thanks for the link, that sounds like the same type of stove, but I did not see or missed the welding in of a top plate, so there is a flat area the full length of the stove.

Bill cut out the ‘top’ of the side of the barrel and then joined a flat piece of iron, to the two sides. A strip of about 10 or 12 inches.

LOL, it works.


8,837 posted on 06/09/2009 1:52:21 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

One thing that some of you might be interested in - they had quite a few (about 15) Ron Popeil (sp) dehydrators (remember them from TV?) for $25 each. 5 tray models. Sounds like a reasonable price if you are looking for one.<<<

I was given one of those, it does not have a fan, but lots of folks like them for yogurt makers.

The cheapie that Walmart sells, does have a fan.


8,838 posted on 06/09/2009 1:53:57 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CottonBall

One learns to play the cards they are dealt.

That is a magnificent attitude.

And one that will go far in survival times. I hope to do better at following your lead in acceptance of what is.<<<

You will do what is needed and get through it, then you can fall apart later....

Sometimes, one has far more strength/will power, than has been tested.

When I was married before Bill, I was the pit crew/first aid for my husband and all the others, if I was not riding in the race.

LOL, it was always my bike that had a problem, never his.

I ran to so many men on the ground, that it was automatic.

About a year after Bill and I married, we were driving down the highway, behind a large group of Sunday motorcyclists and all of a sudden, one ran off the road and hit a tree.

I yelled at Bill to stop, grabbed my water bottle and wet towel and went running, Bill said later he thought I was nuts.

It turned out they were hurt, the gal riding behind had passed out and that caused the wreck.

Bill got an ambulance for them.

Later the man looked up the real estate office and thanked me, said that if we had not stopped, it could have been even longer, as we were not near a town, but Bill knew someone who did have a phone, not far away.

The man driving the motorcycle, was one of my customers in the coffee shop that I had worked at for 8 years and only quit to marry Bill.

That is how small a world is.


8,839 posted on 06/09/2009 2:03:32 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Everyone, I just wanted to thank you all for your prayers. I recently got reduced to only two days per week on dialysis. I’ve stayed on my raw foods diet (about 75% raw) and kept my weight the same for about six months now. God is good!! And you guys are the best!!<<<

That is indeed wonderful news.

Now to keep praying, until it is zero days per week.

Freeper prayers go to the top of God’s list, I suspect, for he knows how much they mean to all of us.


8,840 posted on 06/09/2009 2:12:44 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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