Is Recession Preparing a New Breed of Survivalist? [Survival Today - an On going Thread #2]

May 05th,2008

[Velveeta]

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I wonder how much information on Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn might crop up?

[CottonBall]

>>>on another note we have our greenhouse cover ready but the wind wont give up long enough to attach it.. anyway we are ahead of schedule for our climate (it’s 34 deg now..)<<<

Does anyone have any advice on how to build a greenhouse that will withstand snow on the roof and will also allow the snow to slide off? (We have building codes of 200 lbs/sq. ft.). But the snow needs to get off to let the light in. I'm not sure what kind of material would work.

[DelaWhere]

Granny, I did blast him in my comments. It is somewhat reassuring to read some of the others comments...

Another Jane Fonda !!!!!

SHOULD BE OUSTED FROM CONGRESS—MEDAL FOR SERVICE?? GET RID OF THE SEC. OF THE NAVY AS WELL!!!!

Should be removed from Government service, as a crooked, corrupt self serving hypercrite, No incumbent should be elected to office that are presently serving in government today. Impeachment of the following alsoFRANKS,DOBBS,PELOSI, REID and others.

This is an embarrassment!

Not that you should print

Take your head out of the sand! This award to Murtha besmirtches all other justifiable recipients!

Murtha is a disgrace to any military vet and family. He is a digrace as a congressman. He is a miserable human being.

He is a disgrace to my country.

With relatives and friends who have served this country faithfully, it is shocking to see any sort of award given to Rep. Murtha, who has done nothing except castigate the various armed forces. Please reverse this plan to honor him immediately!!!

This nothing short of criminal, this man is a traitor to our country

Burn in Hell Murtha

How can one man be so arrogant and the other so stupid??

This is NOT MY NAVY

This is an outrage

Appalling

murtha is a piece of crap the worst

Murtha deserves indictment, not awards.

god help the u.s.a.

Giving this award to Murtha will dishonor the medal forever.

Did the Secretary of the Navy pay his taxes?

I am a registered voter, Wife of Vietnam Veteran, Mother of an Afghanistan Veteran (still active in the National Guard), Mother of Navy Veteran, Grandmother of a Marine on active duty in Okinawa, and my Son In Law serves in the Navy . John Murtha does not deserve to be honored and I have earned the right to say so thanks to my boys who all volunteered to serve our country with dignity and pride!

Murtha is a disgrace to our military and an embarrassment to the United States

Apalled is too nice a word!

This man is a traitor and a disgrace to our nation. How could you possibly honor him?

This is an outrage and a slap in the face for all military personal.

“Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale, and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled or hanged.” -A. Lincoln

The Secretary of the Navy should resign his commision. His ignorance and lack of moral reasoning is mind boggling.

You too can sign this petition at:

http://www.petitiononline.com/usmc2009/petition.html

p.s. 12,013 petitioners already!

[DelaWhere]

>>>Let me guess - dad had her eat something healthier! <<<

Well of course, 2 eggs, 2 strips of bacon, 2 homemade whole grain pocket rolls, 1 orange, hot cocoa...

THEN we each had 3 pieces of that fudge...

Now you know why she tells everyone she is a ‘Daddy’s Girl’.

[DelaWhere]

You were on my mind as I was in our local Gigante store...

Well, they do carry the Diamond ‘Strike Anywhere’ Matches...

They are 3 boxes of 250 for $2.59.

If you can’t get any, let me know and I would gladly get some and send them to you.

Yep, I stocked up too.

[CottonBall]

THEN we each had 3 pieces of that fudge...

Now you know why she tells everyone she is a ‘Daddy’s Girl’.

LOL! I'm glad she got some fudge for dessert. I'm going to HAVE to make some of that soon. I'll have to go buy some more honey though. I packed all I bought away for long-term...

[nw_arizona_granny]

The Murtha petition already has 10,526 signatures.<<<

There are a lot of folks that do not support murtha.

I have a couple sets of reports on him, many articles about his crimes and involvements, that a lady put together a couple years ago.....scary as it gets.

[nw_arizona_granny]

This will help eliminate some of the flapping from a loose cover which increases the wear and decreases the longevity.<<<

Excellent advice.

[nw_arizona_granny]

No, I don’t buy that one. I’m really glad I ‘paniced’ and sold everything when the DOW was between $12K and $10K. Socialist governments don’t encourage economic growth. It won’t be bouncing back any time soon.<<<

Sorry, I do not believe in stocks and never bought one.

Might as well go and play a casino game, pull the handle and it is win or loose.

Buying real estate, now that is the way to go, rentals if you can maintain them, or vacant land to resell.

[nw_arizona_granny]

I wonder how much information on Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn might crop up?<<<

I haven’t had a chance to go and read them as yet, want to do so.

I don’t know, I think these are some Bush released and am not at all sure if obama has checked on them.

And then there are the clintons and kerry.....

[nw_arizona_granny]

Does anyone have any advice on how to build a greenhouse that will withstand snow on the roof and will also allow the snow to slide off? (We have building codes of 200 lbs/sq. ft.). But the snow needs to get off to let the light in. I’m not sure what kind of material would work.<<<<

I do not have knowledge of real snow, but if you check the solar greenhouse books, some will show the angles to build and they are often steep enough slopes to slide it off, due to the slope.

I like mine attached to the house, and you will get heat from it, if you open a window or door.

How about half an “A” frame, that will slide it off, there are some new coverings that I do not know about, but the old clear corrugated fiberglass works well too, it is what I used.

Never use the brown or red tinted fiberglass, as it cuts the ultra violet rays from the sun, that the plants need.

[nw_arizona_granny]

Granny, I did blast him in my comments. It is somewhat reassuring to read some of the others comments...<<<

LOL, I was beginning to think you got a little carried away, then went back and caught the “others comments”.

[DelaWhere]

>>>I like mine attached to the house, and you will get heat from it, if you open a window or door.<<<

Excellent advice...

They make a polycarbonate sheet that is two layers with spacers that create air pockets. Considerably reduces heat loss and is much stronger.

If you make a freestanding gothic arch greenhouse, it will shed snow quite well, and most building codes consider a pipe frame, polyethylene covered greenhouse to be a 'temporary structure' and permitting is usually not required nor is code applicable... But in those Demo-Can't controlled places, the Liberal 'Rats control everything...

Hey, maybe that is why I am a Republ-I-Can.

Seriously, I would put one on the South side of the house, shed, barn, hillside. On the house, Granny is absolutely correct - adds heat to the house in the sunny winter day. Open top AND bottom of a window, and the heat will come into the house through the top and cooler air will go into greenhouse via the bottom.

Something like this:

[CottonBall]

Buying real estate, now that is the way to go, rentals if you can maintain them, or vacant land to resell.

That hasn't worked out very well either lately. First stocks were overvalued compared to their company's earnings, and then the same happened with real estate due to government interference. IF capitalism were allowed to prevail and the normal cycles of peaks and valleys allowed to happen, neither bubble would have happened, IMO.

Also, we had rentals for a while. The way laws now make it all but impossible for landlords to have any rights w/r their own property and tenants to have many - it's not hardly worth the trouble to have a rental either. And people aren't what they used to be - most renters would just as soon destroy someone else's property or try to live there for free (the attitude of entitlement has ruined this country, IMO). Now, if I could go back to the 50's, then rentals probably would be a good thing again. More wishful thinking...

[CottonBall]

Good advice on green houses - thanks granny!

[CottonBall]

If you make a freestanding gothic arch greenhouse, it will shed snow quite well, and most building codes consider a pipe frame, polyethylene covered greenhouse to be a 'temporary structure' and permitting is usually not required nor is code applicable... But in those Demo-Can't controlled places, the Liberal 'Rats control everything...

Even here, we can get away with a temporary structure like that. I just heard of a guy that has a 3000 sq. ft 'woodshed', complete with furniture and doors! I hope he never gets inspected...

Thanks for the greenhouse info - I will hopefully be putting it to good use this summer. I may have to attach it to the back deck, though, because both sides of the house will be shedding massive amounts of snow throughout next winter - and crush the poor little thing!

[DelaWhere]

A cross section of a sheet of double wall polycarbonate would look like:

You can even go to the 'Cadillac' with Lexan which is almost indestructible. (thicker sheets of it are bullet-proof)

The trapped air serves as an insulation and increases the R factor considerably. (R is a measure of resistance to the transfer of heat - Like regular insulation may be an R-6 or R-24 and are used to determine heating/cooling loads.)

[DelaWhere]

>>>I’m glad she got some fudge for dessert.<<<

So, guess what she said about lunch.....

“Dad, can I just have fudge for lunch?”

It is really the creamiest fudge I think I have ever made and sure tastes good...

Oh, and I didn’t measure either... 2 really large globs of peanut butter, whatever honey was in the bottom 2 inches of the honey jar, and oh, maybe a cup of those dark chocolate chips. Not exactly by the recipe, but Mmmmm Mmmmmm Good.

[DelaWhere]

>>>Buying real estate, now that is the way to go<<<

Well, if you are into bargains, they are out there right now... They just reported on the Sheriff sale of properties in Sussex County here. 46 properties up for auction - 1 sold.

The other 45 were returned to the banks. They will be soon going to great lengths to unload them.

I just have a hard time getting enthused in buying foreclosed homes... It would leave a ‘blood money’ feeling in the pit of my stomach. I know, someone will buy them - but I would rather sleep well not having that to think about.

[CottonBall]

Well, if you are into bargains, they are out there right now... They just reported on the Sheriff sale of properties in Sussex County here. 46 properties up for auction - 1 sold.

I'm sure our area hasn't hit the bottom yet. So I'd want to wait a while myself.

I just have a hard time getting enthused in buying foreclosed homes... It would leave a ‘blood money’ feeling in the pit of my stomach. I know, someone will buy them - but I would rather sleep well not having that to think about.

I know what you mean. Not all are people that were irresponsible. We know of one that the guy put $100K down (from the sale of another home) and lost his job. So he lost all that money and his home as well. Very sad.