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Don’t Call it “Darwinism” [religiously defended as "science" by Godless Darwinists]
springerlink ^ | 16 January 2009 | Eugenie C. Scott and Glenn Branch

Posted on 01/28/2009 11:36:17 AM PST by Coyoteman

We will see and hear the term “Darwinism” a lot during 2009, a year during which scientists, teachers, and others who delight in the accomplishments of modern biology will commemorate the 200th anniversary of Darwin’s birth and the 150th anniversary of the publication of On the Origin of Species. But what does “Darwinism” mean? And how is it used? At best, the phrase is ambiguous and misleading about science. At worst, its use echoes a creationist strategy to demonize evolution.

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In summary, then, “Darwinism” is an ambiguous term that impairs communication even about Darwin’s own ideas. It fails to convey the full panoply of modern evolutionary biology accurately, and it fosters the inaccurate perception that the field stagnated for 150 years after Darwin’s day. Moreover, creationists use “Darwinism” to frame evolutionary biology as an ism or ideology, and the public understanding of evolution and science suffers as a result. True, in science, we do not shape our research because of what creationists claim about our subject matter. But when we are in the classroom or otherwise dealing with the public understanding of science, it is entirely appropriate to consider whether what we say may be misunderstood. We cannot expect to change preconceptions if we are not willing to avoid exacerbating them. A first step is eschewing the careless use of “Darwinism.”

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TOPICS: Education; Science
KEYWORDS: belongsinreligion; intelligentdesign; notasciencetopic; oldearthspeculation; piltdownman; propellerbeanie; spammer; toe
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To: editor-surveyor
Shame on you for exhibiting the errors of a senile old man.

Did you diagnose the case yourself or have you relied on Dr. Juan Valdez?

His departure from God’s word must now be an embarrasment to him in the presence of the Lord, and hopefully he is unaware of what you are doing here.

If you really cared about your fellow man, you'd get the word out that you and you alone know God's will, God's intentions, and what knowledge is and isn't pleasing to the Lord. Get those several hundred errant Christian sects out there (estimates vary), right with You!

381 posted on 01/28/2009 10:13:26 PM PST by Gumlegs
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To: RegulatorCountry

The answer is in the piece I posted. Read it.


382 posted on 01/28/2009 10:14:06 PM PST by Gumlegs
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To: grey_whiskers
So you lack compassion: or is your opposition to state-funded religion not really a principle?

France is France's problem, not mine.

383 posted on 01/28/2009 10:14:08 PM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: metmom; All
Or is it that laurel wreath thingie?

Please, read the open letter I left for you at DC. It's in the appropriate forum -- I'm sure you know the one. ;)

384 posted on 01/28/2009 10:16:31 PM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: Gumlegs
Why would anyone confuse an observation of how nature works with a prescription for running a society?

Hold a seance and aske Margaret Sanger.

Seriously, though, when someone starts thinking we're no better than animals, they start thinking that the way to run our society is to do things that make animals stronger.

385 posted on 01/28/2009 10:18:04 PM PST by Mr. Silverback ("[Palin] has not even lived in the Lower 48 since 1987. Come on! Really!" --Polybius)
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To: CE2949BB; Mr. Silverback; metmom; Jim Robinson
g_w:So you lack compassion: or is your opposition to state-funded religion not really a principle? CE9:France is France's problem, not mine.

That's funny -- so by declining to answer the question, even when repeated, you confirm that separation of church and state is not even one of your principles. It is merely a convenient stick to beat Christianity with.

Here's your burqua.

Do you like kitties? (See the top of my FReeper homepage.)

Cheers!

386 posted on 01/28/2009 10:20:00 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: ToGodBeTheGlory

Evolution is a theory which explains the facts of human existance.

Please try to understand.


387 posted on 01/28/2009 10:20:11 PM PST by soroptimist
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To: Radix

[[Personally, I like contention out here. I do not mean disruption for the sake of it, but I appreciate that often times reasonable people will disagree.]]

That’s my sentiments exactly- I liked Coyoteman despite his occassional disruptions, but they were gettign worse and worse

Yeah- I saw your followup post right after I posted- saw that you read why he’d been banned- so my post was unnecessary


388 posted on 01/28/2009 10:21:17 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Why stop there?

I once saw graffiti on the University of Minnesota -- Twin Cities campus which read "Vegetable Rights and Peace".

389 posted on 01/28/2009 10:21:28 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
Hmm. Like an ape in some ways, like a human in others. Could it be--gasp!--a transitional???

A chimp is more like a human than a rhesus monkey is. If there were no chimps or rhesus monkeys around, and someone found a fossil of a rhesus and a fossil of a chimp, couldn't they conclude that the chimp was a transitional form between the rhesus and man?

390 posted on 01/28/2009 10:22:00 PM PST by Mr. Silverback ("[Palin] has not even lived in the Lower 48 since 1987. Come on! Really!" --Polybius)
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To: ToGodBeTheGlory

There is no heaven or hell.

Once you die, it is all over.

Believe what you want, I’m a
Buddhist.


391 posted on 01/28/2009 10:22:23 PM PST by soroptimist
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To: YHAOS
In the months to come I sure hope we don't hear any lies about the cause of coyoteman's banishment. Don't you?

Near as I can tell, "coyoteman" just got banned for being an idiot but, then, we all knew that; I mean, the guy actually believed in darwinism... Am I missing anything here?

392 posted on 01/28/2009 10:22:50 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: grey_whiskers
That's funny -- so by declining to answer the question, even when repeated, you confirm that separation of church and state is not even one of your principles. It is merely a convenient stick to beat Christianity with.

Here's your burqua.

As I've said twice before: France is France's problem, not mine.

Maybe it's too hard for you to understand, but I oppose the promotion of religion - all religion, including Islam and Buddhism - by the government.

Any government.

Do you like kitties?

Do you like our party being out of power?

393 posted on 01/28/2009 10:25:12 PM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: grey_whiskers
Not in context. And not if you read carefully -- the post I replied to ended with the statement "it's not just about the science". So the group who has been making that claim is the evolutionists.

I beg to offer divergent views. Either group has been guilty (if I may utilize that word) of stating or implying that it is not just about the science.

And both sides claim to be fighting for "the truth" which makes the need for popcorn all the more urgent.

Some in both groups certainly are.

I wonder who would be more surprised, or offended, in learning that they are both correct?

394 posted on 01/28/2009 10:25:22 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: ToGodBeTheGlory
Remember, God is the final Admin. There is no glub. I believe in one less dog than you do. I'm a buddhist. There is no glub, no heaven, no hell. Where does that leave me?
395 posted on 01/28/2009 10:26:03 PM PST by soroptimist
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To: Mr. Silverback

the chimp stopped here ...........@the WH :)


396 posted on 01/28/2009 10:26:28 PM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Scooters work good in Vermont snow)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Gumlegs: Why would anyone confuse an observation of how nature works with a prescription for running a society?

Hold a seance and aske Margaret Sanger.

Methinks perhaps I should not as 'tis well known that a Seance is both UnGodly and a foul and notorious Refuge of the Pickpocket, the Thief, and the Scoundrel.

Seriously, though, when someone starts thinking we're no better than animals, they start thinking that the way to run our society is to do things that make animals stronger.

This looks like the same broad-brush you didn't like when I included you in my post about the Pope's piece.

397 posted on 01/28/2009 10:28:13 PM PST by Gumlegs
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To: Gumlegs; ToGodBeTheGlory
If "God wrote down everything we needed to know," as you just posted, what are you doing on the internet? It's not mentioned in the Bible.

Once a friend had trouble finding my house after I had given him a sheet of directions. "that's weird," I said, "I wrote down everything you needed to know."

Now, do you think that when I said that I meant thatt I had written down everything he needed to know, from the alphabet and algebra to the company that insured his car?

398 posted on 01/28/2009 10:29:43 PM PST by Mr. Silverback ("[Palin] has not even lived in the Lower 48 since 1987. Come on! Really!" --Polybius)
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To: soroptimist
There is a heaven and a hell.

Once you die, you will probably prefer heaven.

Don't believe what you want, since your belief will affect where you go.

Fortunately, God did the heavy lifting; and promised to indwell us and to change our very nature to restore our right relationship to Him and bring us to heaven.

I'm a Christian.

Full Disclosure:

Since you're posting this on a "science" thread, I expect the atheistic evos (if they are sincere) to swarm over you, demanding physical evidence for the historical anecdotes and theological teachings of Buddhism; and demanding that only evolution be taught in schools in those countries where Buddhism is a major faith.

And then to repeat the process in Israel.

And then in the Caliphate.

...

*crickets*

Cheers!

399 posted on 01/28/2009 10:33:36 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Mr. Silverback; ToGodBeTheGlory
I'm trying to figure out what ToGodBeTheGlory was getting at. I'll let him/her/it answer my question.

Once a friend had trouble finding my house after I had given him a sheet of directions. "that's weird," I said, "I wrote down everything you needed to know."

Must ... Not ... Post ...

400 posted on 01/28/2009 10:35:29 PM PST by Gumlegs
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