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Don’t Call it “Darwinism” [religiously defended as "science" by Godless Darwinists]
springerlink ^ | 16 January 2009 | Eugenie C. Scott and Glenn Branch

Posted on 01/28/2009 11:36:17 AM PST by Coyoteman

We will see and hear the term “Darwinism” a lot during 2009, a year during which scientists, teachers, and others who delight in the accomplishments of modern biology will commemorate the 200th anniversary of Darwin’s birth and the 150th anniversary of the publication of On the Origin of Species. But what does “Darwinism” mean? And how is it used? At best, the phrase is ambiguous and misleading about science. At worst, its use echoes a creationist strategy to demonize evolution.

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In summary, then, “Darwinism” is an ambiguous term that impairs communication even about Darwin’s own ideas. It fails to convey the full panoply of modern evolutionary biology accurately, and it fosters the inaccurate perception that the field stagnated for 150 years after Darwin’s day. Moreover, creationists use “Darwinism” to frame evolutionary biology as an ism or ideology, and the public understanding of evolution and science suffers as a result. True, in science, we do not shape our research because of what creationists claim about our subject matter. But when we are in the classroom or otherwise dealing with the public understanding of science, it is entirely appropriate to consider whether what we say may be misunderstood. We cannot expect to change preconceptions if we are not willing to avoid exacerbating them. A first step is eschewing the careless use of “Darwinism.”

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TOPICS: Education; Science
KEYWORDS: belongsinreligion; intelligentdesign; notasciencetopic; oldearthspeculation; piltdownman; propellerbeanie; spammer; toe
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To: tpanther
Do you think pretty much everybody is equally capable of recognizing projections when they seem them too?

Pretty much, particularly if they don't have emotional attachments to the issues.

261 posted on 01/28/2009 7:47:52 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic; YHAOS
Ain't nobody going to wet their pants over some anonymous poster on an internet chat forum telling them what they better say or not say about what happened on a thread.

But now socks...

262 posted on 01/28/2009 7:48:44 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: CE2949BB
The question he asked - is Sarah Palin a Creationist? - is valid. That was never settled.

The secondary question -- whether someone being a creationist should disqualify them from public office -- is very troubling to a ...Free Republic.

Nice try at sweeping bigotry under the rug.

You need to address the question in context: to what extent would her creationism (if present) inform her policy and appointment choices to such an extent that it would really screw the country? And if they would, why can't we ban liberals from public office?

Learn to think your *own* positions through several layers deeper (and without retorting by strawman or ad hominem, otherwise you may occasionally come across as a liberal mouthing memorized platitudes, even after they have become non sequiturs to the point at hand.

Cheers! Cheers!

263 posted on 01/28/2009 7:48:49 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: tpanther

If there were teeth, that could be blood, but it isn’t.


264 posted on 01/28/2009 7:49:58 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Gumlegs
You're missing the implication. I'll speak up.

Do you yourself really believe, accept at face value, adhere to, accept, or affirm the claim that "God was with the Nazis [as they claimed of themselves]"?

If not, why not?

If so, why?

265 posted on 01/28/2009 7:53:01 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Gumlegs

We’re not all Catholics, Gumlegs. A Pope is just as fallible as the rest of us in this fallen world, as far as I’m concerned. I greatly admired Pope John Paul II, and believed him to be a Godly man, though.

As far as the fey little “oh, please,” you tell me how parents can raise children in their faith, with all of officialdom in opposition to doing so.


266 posted on 01/28/2009 7:53:35 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: CE2949BB
which is limited since I was born 1981

Oh! You're a child.

I have hope that you will grow out of your intellectual swashbuckling stage in time.

Cheers!

267 posted on 01/28/2009 7:54:20 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: CE2949BB; metmom
Sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming, "It's not science! Junk science! Make it go away!" doesn't address the problem and doesn't convince voters.

Except of course when it comes to the cult of darwinism, it works just fine then metmom.

268 posted on 01/28/2009 7:54:53 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: CE2949BB; tpanther
Accepting the reality of the science doesn't mean you're rejecting God (in the case of evolution) or that you want to dictate what kind of car a person drives (in the case of climate change).

Likewise, accepting the reality of God doesn't make you anti-science like cm used to accuse everyone who disagreed with him of.

You're attempting to frame this in a "cultural war" context, which simply isn't valid.

It is a culture war and science is the weapon of choice with which to bludgeon Christianity with. It's being used to push religion out of schools in the name of science. It's been used to make out Christians as being ignorant and anti-progress.

The culture war is between the ideology that's hijacked science and Christianity.

It would do good for you guys to see that and rescue science from their grip. Evos refusal to do so only reinforces the idea that evos are throwing their chips in with the liberals/atheists/God haters.

You're going to have a hard time convincing anyone that you are not also liberal/atheist/God haters if you don't speak up against the abuse and misuse of science instead of justifying or excusing what they do.

269 posted on 01/28/2009 7:57:43 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: tacticalogic
You don’t “ping” someone who’s already here.

Well, I guess you needed to correct me on something. Glad you found it.

270 posted on 01/28/2009 7:59:22 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: RegulatorCountry; Gumlegs

Jesus Himself speaks of creation and the creation of Adam and Eve.

Or was Jesus a liar, Gumlegs?


271 posted on 01/28/2009 7:59:32 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: tacticalogic
Never been to DC, and there aren’t any winners in a crevo thread, just survivors.

OK, if you say so. But, if you’ve never been to DC how do you know there are no winners? (I’ll avoid the obvious rejoinder)

272 posted on 01/28/2009 8:00:42 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: YHAOS

We done?


273 posted on 01/28/2009 8:01:33 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: metmom

I have absolutely no idea what you mean. Please, cite examples.


274 posted on 01/28/2009 8:01:43 PM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: YHAOS

Been here over 10 years. Haven’t seen any yet.


275 posted on 01/28/2009 8:02:16 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
We’re not all Catholics, Gumlegs. A Pope is just as fallible as the rest of us in this fallen world, as far as I’m concerned. I greatly admired Pope John Paul II, and believed him to be a Godly man, though.

You didn't really pay attention, did you? I pointed out that I I posted the Pope's piece because it demonstrates how one can be serious about one's religion -- you will allow that the Pope was serious about his religion, won't you? -- and still accept that the Theory of Evolution is science.

As far as the fey little “oh, please,” you tell me how parents can raise children in their faith, with all of officialdom in opposition to doing so.

They can see to their childrens' religious instruction. Are there police stationed at your church refusing to allow the congregation to enter?

276 posted on 01/28/2009 8:03:49 PM PST by Gumlegs
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To: tacticalogic
Been here over 10 years. Haven’t seen any yet.

So you *admit* you're a loser? ;-)

Cheers!

277 posted on 01/28/2009 8:05:18 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
Somehow, try as I might, I just can't see God as being with the Nazis. Of course, I can't see some of the self-appointed Bullhorns for God here as speaking for Him either.

God told me so Himself.

278 posted on 01/28/2009 8:07:07 PM PST by Gumlegs
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To: grey_whiskers

I’ll claim to be a survivor. :)


279 posted on 01/28/2009 8:07:28 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Gumlegs; wendy1946; wagglebee; metmom; Jim Robinson; tpanther; little jeremiah; Sam's Army

Shame on you for exhibiting the errors of a senile old man.

His departure from God’s word must now be an embarrasment to him in the presence of the Lord, and hopefully he is unaware of what you are doing here.


280 posted on 01/28/2009 8:07:50 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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