Posted on 01/14/2009 8:41:13 PM PST by nickcarraway
Where in the text does “the anger of the LORD” equate to electricity? You are forcing your views on the text in an effort to deny the miraculous.
I am an originalist/textualist when it comes to the Scriptures and to the Constitution. I have no right to presume anything I believe upon them; I must conform to the plain meaning.
If God works entirely within the laws of physics, and cannot work beyond them, I would be interested in hearing your interpretation of Jesus walking on the water.
God is not bound by what He has created. Bringing evolution into what I said is a red herring, by the way. You know very well by what I said that I hold a high view of G-d and the Scriptures.
What the lady is saying appears logical, what you are saying does not. Why would the Lord kill the guy for simply trying to steady the ark on a wagon? You’re saying God wanted the thing to fall off the wagon and get broken??
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You ARE kidding, right?
The guy wasn’t supposed to touch the ark, upon pain of death, those were God’s rules and plainly stated. It was HOLY, too HOLY to touch. It was supposed to be carried on poles, not in a wagon. Two rules broken. The guy touched it and got zapped when steadying on the cart. The next time they carried it with poles.
King David wasn’t too happy with the outcome.
Nonsense.
And the Philistines were afflicted with a plague of hemorrhoids from manhandling the ark.
Yep and mice, too, if I read it correctly. Those too things together have some “unusual” connotations if you get my meaning.
I have seen this event offered as support for the perpetual virginity of Mary. Mary is the Ark of the New Covenant, equivalent of the Ark of the Old Covenant. She carried the same things in her womb as were carried in the old Ark. The word of God( the 10 Commandments/Jesus - the word made flesh); the Bread from god (Manna/Jesus - the bread of life); and a symbol of the priesthood ( Aaron's staff that budded/Jesus - the one true priest of God.) That no other man could touch the Ark without dieing, equates to the fact that Mary was a perpetual virgin. Also, David danced before the Ark when it was being brought to Jerusalem, like John the Baptist leapt in Elizabeth's womb in the presence of Jesus. The nature of the old Ark, "Gold within and without" is akin to Mary's sinless nature. You would not have Jesus, the son of God, carried in anything but a pristine (dare I say immaculate) vessel. All interesting foreshadowing of Jesus.
It is an old guilded box, that was made moot 2,000 years ago.
It was never anything more than a copy, made to the pattern of the original, which was, is, and ever shall be, in Heaven, inside the Celestial Temple.
Thanks for posting this. There was an interesting program on the History Channel last week about this.
Etrurians? You mean Etruscans?
And ALL ancient religious practices involved static electricity and trance states? Really?
My pleasure.
“If you read closely enough, you will note that God works entirely within the laws of physics”
He wasn’t working within the laws of physics when he created the heaven and the earth.
Serious scientists are giving up on the "big bang" idea and the idea of a supposedly omnipotent and omniscient God suddenly deciding at any given point in time that it would be cool to create a universe (while the idea had never occurred to him in the infinite expanse of time prior to that) is basically nonsensical.
Ok, why don’t you (or someone with the requisite funds) make a facsimile ark built to spec (Exodus 25) and see what kind of charge you can get. As for God only working within natural law, I post the Resurrection.
You presume God is trapped by 4 dimensions. Even the Bible alludes to this Psalms 90. In short, God sees time waaaay different than we do.
“a sidebar history of the Ark of the Covenant was shown on the History Channel regarding a program about Ethiopia .”
<<<Several books have been written about the Ark being in Ethiopia (one by a Christian researcher, Grant Jefferies), and years ago, I saw a video from local library showing Noah’s Ark in Turkey—there was no snow. Seems these are the best kept non-secrets.
Great post, thanks.
I remember seeing a documentary showing how there are still nomadic tribes in Arabia that place a chest of sorts on the lead camel when they’re on the move. They attach brightly covered cloth from the rig and place their holy items within the chest. Their local word for it all translates as ‘ark’.
It seems likely that the ancient Hebrews were following a common tradition in the area and supports the idea that they were originally just one of many nomadic tribes in the area.
It’s amazing how much of the ancient world still survives if you look hard enough.
“the universe at large, like God, is eternal”
This error can be corrected when you learn that God is above all things, including the “universe.”
As for what can be described as “nonsensical,” you must take a careful look at the fact that the last point in your post to me is a declarative statement regarding what you or others imagine God should think, or could think.
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