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Details emerge on Jett Travolta's death
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Posted on 01/04/2009 3:52:28 PM PST by GVnana

Details emerge on Jett Travolta's death

John Travolta, Kelly Preston and their children Jett and Ella Bleu, leave an airport in Rome.

John Travolta's lawyers -- who are close family friends -- reveal that Jett may have died in his father's arms Friday.

Us: How is John doing?

-snip- "John and Kelly are suffering total misery. They were so close to their son. This is hard to accept.

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Us: Have John and Kelly spent time with anyone since everyone arrived?

Ossi and McDermott: "John and Kelly have been pretty much locked away.

"We are staying here until John leaves. The autopsy should be on Monday.

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Us: It's been reported that Jett was left alone for several hours before being discovered. Can you clarify the timeline?

Ossi and McDermott: "Jett was not left alone. He had a nanny present at all times. The nanny was sleeping close to Jett's room. There was a baby monitor, a chime on the door so it was known when Jett was going in and out. He was completely supervised. The nanny found him.

Us: Is it true that Jett died in John's arms?

Ossi and McDermott: "Jett may have still been alive when John administered CPR, and then the EMT took over. Jett was pronounced dead at the hospital. I like to believe John had a chance to say goodbye. He may have died in his dad's arms. I am not certain."

Us: It's been said Jett had a history of seizures. How often did he have them?

Ossi and McDermott: "I am not confident to talk about that. I know he had a history, which of course warranted the extra attention."

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: scientology; travolta
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To: RummyChick

right.. so far we only know one drug.. and we don’t know how long he was taking it for... he may have only been on it a few months.. everyone I think is assuming that he had been on it for years and was only recently taken off it..

They may have tried Depakote for few months.. got word from the Scientologists to go off... consulted with a neurosurgeon to say that going off was not likely to kill him.. possibly there was some slight rise in liver enzymes or whatever.. and has not sought any other treatment for years.. because of their beliefs...

thats why we need to know more..


501 posted on 01/06/2009 8:16:04 AM PST by outlawjake
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To: RummyChick

Tommy Davis just can’t seem to shut up the REAL doctors

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090106/travolta_autism_090106/20090106?hub=Health

“According to Carlen, there is also an increased frequency of epilepsy, a seizure disorder, in autistic patients.

Most people with epilepsy require medication,” Carlen said.

He then went on to say: “Not being on enough medication, or not being on medication, is one of the risk factors for sudden unexplained death from epilepsy.”


502 posted on 01/06/2009 8:17:03 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

there are millions of parents with very low IQ’s.. many actually mentally retarded..

not to mention the huge amount of people caught up in these cults who have lost all sense of reasoning...

the least we owe children in our society is the right to live..

I agree with you completely..


503 posted on 01/06/2009 8:20:15 AM PST by outlawjake
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To: outlawjake

We will never get that info...and Jett has already been cremated.

Guess who was involved with the Mcpherson case

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_McPherson

Wecht and Baden

The only thing left now is to see how the Church does their damage control

There are disputes on the timeline and there are disputes about the blow to the head. They can’t seem to get their stories straight.

I posted an interesting link I found on the anonymous site to the FAA info on one of Travoltas planes. I havent seen who was flying it during the time in question..about the time they claim they found Jett.

Likely bringing down the Scientology handlers.

There are reports that Travoltas went to Scientology center before the Bahamas. Did Jett get any treatment there?

The nanny is a Scientologist, too.

John Travolta probably was.... and probably still is a nice guy...who loved his son, and will be devastated by what happened. It is just too damn bad he got mixed up with this insane cult.


504 posted on 01/06/2009 8:25:40 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

I really know nothing about Scientology..

do you know if their numbers are increasing?

also.. makes me wonder.. if it turns out lack of medication was the cause of this child’s death and that was because of Scientology beliefs.. how many other deaths are out there from Scientology that we have heard nothing about.. because the father is not a well known actor...


505 posted on 01/06/2009 8:35:28 AM PST by outlawjake
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To: outlawjake

I don’t know about their numbers increasing but I can tell you they are a very powerful group. And a scary one. Will they stop at nothing for power and more importantly money? Are they like the Clintons? Are they worse than the Clintons?

Will they call in protestors to wear Guy Fawkes masks and protest the Travolta funeral in order to give Anonymous bad press.

There was a big dust up about a group posting graphics to cause seizures on Seizure support group websites. Scientology claims it was members of Anonymous. Was it? Or was it Scientologists?

Time magazine did a very damning article on them.

Wecht claims that it is too soon to know that he died of a seizure. ( you have to extrapolate)

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,475984,00.html

I think it is probably true that the lower level Scientologists are not privy to all the knowledge and don’t know just how evil this group is. You only gain knowledge after you paid money and go through courses. This is why they tried to stop the leak of the documents showing all the levels and whatnot.

I wonder how many know about the Sea.org and the abortion BS.

But.....adults have the choice to join, pay their money, and go with the program.

But the kids pay a price...and according to some..like posters here...its the parents decision and it doesnt matter how high the price.


506 posted on 01/06/2009 8:55:11 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: GVnana
"Anonymous."

Wasn't the snot-nose who hacked Palin's computer associated that outfit?

Wouldn't be much of a stretch to fire-bombing churches in Alaska.

507 posted on 01/06/2009 9:16:02 AM PST by GVnana ("I once dressed as Tina Fey for Halloween." - Sarah Palin)
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To: GVnana

Here is the information on Michelle Malkins site

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/17/the-story-behind-the-palin-e-mail-hacking/


508 posted on 01/06/2009 9:31:41 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

I wonder if Scientology would have allowed a VNA implant?

Very doubtful.


509 posted on 01/06/2009 9:37:53 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: GVnana; Arizona Carolyn; Wolfstar

A small update to set the record straight. I see US magazine and some TV news are still reporting he hit his head in the bathtub leading some people to assume he was alone while bathing which is not true.


People in the bathroom trying to revive Jett Travolta believe they detected a “faint pulse” during the rescue effort.

We’ve now learned specifics about the circumstances surrounding Jett’s death. The bathroom where John Travolta’s son was found has a small toilet area with a door. Jett was found in that area with the door closed.

Jett had suffered a seizure and struck either the toilet or the wall as he collapsed. He was “bleeding in several areas,” including his mouth. He had no cuts but did have bruises on his body. Jett had also been bleeding internally.

A funeral home official said the body was in “great shape” and showed “no sign of head trauma.” In fact, we’re told there was a considerable amount of blood after the resuscitation efforts but it could have been wiped clean after he died, and the color of Jett’s skin

http://www.tmz.com/2009/01/06/jett-travolta-found-with-pulse/


510 posted on 01/06/2009 10:09:03 AM PST by WestCoastGal (If we will hold the course, God in Heaven will raise up friends to help fight these battles.P Henry)
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To: RummyChick

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/01/children-sickne.html

Andrew Sullivan discussing same topic..


511 posted on 01/06/2009 10:45:00 AM PST by outlawjake
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To: RummyChick

Are you still on this thread trying to trash a family who lost their only son???? You are a piece of excrement pure and simple. I hope you are forced to endure what this family has in spades, you are sick and twisted individual. My guess is you have no kids and are mad at the world for your lot in life.


512 posted on 01/06/2009 10:47:23 AM PST by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: WestCoastGal; GVnana
Thanks for the update WCG. The editor of People Magazine was on Nancy Grace last night and he said they sought treatment for Jett from around the world. When one of the programs (I watched on Jett last night) talked about his 105 temperature, when he came down with Kawasaki, it got me to wondering even if the Kawasaki didn't cause the seizures directly, they could have indirectly if the high temps damaged the brain. John told Larry King it was a terrible situation until a Chinese doctor at Childrens Hospital came in, saw Jett, and recognized Kawasaki and diagnosed it, only then were they able to get the fevers under proper control.

Anyway, I looked it up and febrile seizures do happen from suddenly spiking fevers, but these are seldom long term in nature. On the other hand, poisoning from chemicals and things like lead -- can bring on brain damage in small children and lifelong seizures. In interviews after Jett first became ill both Kelly and John reported he was affected by chemicals.

As to what happened the other day, one thing that can bring on seizures is dehydration and heat. We know he was out on the boat with the family all day in the sun. I know a little bit about boating and dehydration, we have a boat, I have lupus and I am very affected by the sunshine and dehydration when we go boating and have to be very careful to stay in the shade and drink plenty of fluids. One side effect of dehydration is extreme fatigue. It was reported when they came in off the boat that day Jett was very fatigued and wanted to go to bed.

Whatever the cause, the family is in deep grief and my heart goes out to them.

513 posted on 01/06/2009 10:50:28 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Snurple

Geez... settle down snurple... u may not agree with Rummy.. but leave the personal attacks behind...

Rummy is not even blaming Travolta but rather blaming the cult... and everyone can agree it is a tragedy...


514 posted on 01/06/2009 10:59:23 AM PST by outlawjake
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To: outlawjake

Go back and read her posts...its disgusting blaming a parent for the loss of their only son....with no proof only weak conjecture.


515 posted on 01/06/2009 11:02:39 AM PST by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Amen. Thanks for the update.


516 posted on 01/06/2009 11:40:55 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Snurple

Weak conjecture? Hardly. The man was a high level Scientologist.

Have you bothered to read what FORMER high level Scientologists say or is your nasty attack on me just weak conjecture?


517 posted on 01/06/2009 12:12:38 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Snurple

Snurple,

Should a parent who withholds necessary medical treatment such as a blood transfusions be blamed when that child dies?

What do you believe that parent should tell the child as the child begs for Mommy to save his life but Mommy says no, my religion says I cannot.


518 posted on 01/06/2009 12:15:13 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Snurple

Such nasty attacks from you because I dare question the medical care of a kid whose parents are high level Scientologists who do not believe in psych meds.

The boy had seizures every 4 days..that were like death.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/grand-mal-seizure/DS00222

Who is claiming that the Travoltas sought help from around the world?

Give me names. Are they part of the Scientology spin machine? Nancy Grace show? WHO TOLD HER?

And why didn’t ALL Of these doctors..Neurologists...tell them to try another drug. How many drugs could they have tried and what combination to stop those seizures.

Would they have been successful? Maybe not. But they didn’t try. Find me a quote from a competent Neurologist who says to only try ONE drug when dealing with a child who had Gran Mal seizures every day.

But hey, they are the parents and shouldn’t dare be questioned about whether that child received adequate medical care.

And who is to say that even really used that drug. The lawyer?

I hope these gets ALOT Of discussion around the world and people really start to think about the responsibilites of a parent when it comes to the health and welfare of a child.

Why isn’t withholding vital medicine Child abuse?
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/01/children-sickne.html

Oh and by the way, Scientologists believe..as their founder does..that THETANS are causing those seizures.


519 posted on 01/06/2009 12:26:15 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
"What rights did Eliza Jane have to protect her very life from her own mother? What rights did Jett Travolta have under the control of Scientologist parents? I find it hard to believe they had none; and I find the sympathy for parents under those circumstances to be misplaced. http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/01/children-sickne.html
520 posted on 01/06/2009 12:31:16 PM PST by RummyChick
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