Posted on 01/02/2009 1:16:10 PM PST by patriot08
Ed Hale of Plains Radio has secured a copy of the Dunham/Obama divorce decree as promised. He has registered this at the courthouse and has turned the document over to lawyers who are reported to be happy and enthused over the contents.
This is the first page. This is all that can be divulged at this time as those who have seen the decree are sworn to silence. You may hear information about it tonight on Ed's plainsradio show.
People are focussing on what they believe the story is and are directing their searches to the East Coast thinking that Ann and Obama Sr returned to the U.S. from Kenya and went to look over Harvard. This is complete misdirection which is totally wrong. I feel like I have been shouting to the wind! People have not taken in to account things such as the cost for two “starving university students” to fly return to Kenya nor have they given any consideration to the fact that no doctor would give a pregnant woman the required immunizations for a trip to Kenya!
I know that Obama Sr’s plans were not concrete in May of 1962 nor were they set in spring, summer of 1961 so he would not have visited Harvard after a trip to Kenya! There is no evidence that he left HI from the time of his arrival in 1959 until he left by Madsen Lines on June 22,1962 with his first stop being San Franciso where he had dinner with Hal and Shirley Abercrombie. Hal still remembers the impression Obama Sr made at the restaurant after the three were seated at a table near the kitchen. Obama Sr loudly proclaimed how he was insulted being placed in such a spot and that he was a very important person who deserved better treatment. Obama Sr took a two month tour of the U.S. prior to his arrival at Harvard on “...a cool, crisp fall day.”
If Ann had given birth in Vancouver, B.C. in August,1961 there would be no point in checking Ports of Entry for her return with Jr. At that time security was minimal, and guards would check the driver’s license of the driver but paid no attention to passengers! We also know from Susan Blake that Jr was “...very new and very pink” so when Susan Blake saw him he was quite a newborn. If Ann didn’t know how to change diapers one should ask why and one of the first answers which comes to mind is that she was in a home for unwed mothers. These homes discouraged contact between mothers and babies so no attachment was formed.
From Dreams From My Father, BO states that the TV show he wanted to watch (this was at Christmastime) was "How the Grinch Stole Christmas," an animated holiday special. This was in the days long before VCRs and DVDs and Tivo, so that meant he had only that evening to enjoy it. As a former 10-year-old American child (I'm about BO's age) I can sympathize with young BO's desire to watch it. His father's ban on it shows his unfamiliarity with American culture as well as his insensitivity to his son's feelings.
That’s Obama Sr during his visit in Dec/Jan 71-72. The Dunhams made arrangements for him to sublet a neighbor’s apartment in the same building at S.Beretania St. Notice how his one leg is positioned oddly in the photo? He was recuperating from a car accident in which he had injured his leg requiring him to use a cane.
The big family blowup happened during his visit when he told Jr to turn off the t.v. and go study when Jr wanted to watch “How the Grinch Stole Christmas”
That is one story from his book that I actually believe and he says because of it long buried hurts and resentments surfaced between the three Dunhams and Obama Sr. By the time the arguing had ended Jr was only able to watch the last few minutes of the special.
Here’s the template for filing a redress/point of order against Obama. Read it all, and follow the instructions to the letter.
Even though Ed Hale failed to deliver the goods: the alleged evidence of proof (from the point of entry) of Obama’s birth outside the US, he did have several fascinating guests on his show last night. I encourage each of you to make an effort to listen to the rebroadcast. Don’t even focus on Ed Hale and what he did or didn’t do. Just give it a listen. Please excuse the formatting.
Here’s the hot link:
http://4thwatch.axtk.com/4wb/?page_id=25
The link is taken from The Right Side of Life website/blog:
http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=2249
See the reply by (Ed’s guest) David L. Hagen, at the above site/link.
4th Watch
Submit Petition for Redress of Grievance that Obama is ineligible to be President. There is growing evidence that Bary Soetoro/aka Barack Hussein Obama II is not constitutionally qualified to become President. US Electoral College Law provides explicit provision to for a Senator and Representative to jointly raise objections when Congress meets January 8th, 2009 to open and record electoral votes. See 3 U.S.C. Ch. 1, §15, §17, §19 (a) (1), and §19 (c) (1) (Search for “objection”) If Obama is formally “elected”, then every member of Congress has the high privilege to raise a “Point of Order” to invalidate that election as breaching the Constitution for failing to qualify as President. Please petition your Representative and Senators to raise objection over Obama’s qualifications. While phone calls and emailed petitions seek to persuade, the right to “petition for redress of grievances” is a special right preserved under the First Amendment that has constitutional force over any breach of the Constitution (or laws.) A formal Petition for Redress of Grievances requires a “Prayer” (request) for “redress” of a “grievance” and a signature. If not delivered personally, it must be signed before a notary and sent via US Post. Please sign, notarize and send the following to your Representative & Senators to receive by January 7th, or 19th, 2009, for legal effect. Otherwise email to persuade, and forward to friends and colleagues to do the same. Petition for Point of order: Barack H. Obama II is not qualified to become president. HTML Petition for Point of order: Barack H. Obama II is not qualified to become president. PDF Petition for Point of order: Barack H. Obama II is not qualified to become president. Word Doc Petition for Point of order: Barack H. Obama II is not qualified to become president. RTF Doc
Re: Petition for Point of order: Barack H. Obama II is not qualified to become president.
Grievance: Barry Soetoro/a.k.a. Barack Hussein Obama II is not qualified to become president, having had primary allegiances to other nations, and not providing unambiguous evidence he is a “natural born Citizen” without other allegiance, to satisfy the Constitution Article 2 Sect. 1.
Prayer: By your oath to uphold the Constitution, your privilege to raise a Point of Order, by the 10th Amendment powers retained by We the People, and by the right of petition for redress of grievances, I pray that you cosign/raise an Objection/Point of Order in Congress on January 8th 2009, with a member of the other House, on the reading of each State’s electoral certificates/of the total vote for Barack Hussein Obama II, per 3 U.S.C. Ch. 1, §15, §17, §19(a) (1), and §19 (c) (1), namely:
“We/I Object/raise a Point of Order that Mr. Barack Hussein Obama II, is not qualified to become president per the Constitution Article Two, §1, having “Foreign Allegiances” by birth and adoption, by renouncing US citizenship, and by failing to provide unambiguous evidence that he is “a natural born Citizen” without other allegiance, election of a President who does qualify having precedence over other business of this House per Amend. 20 §3 and 3 USC 1. In particular:
1 Mr. Obama having had conflicting “Foreign Allegiance”(s) cannot become Commander in Chief having sole allegiance to the USA, and thus cannot qualify as “a natural born Citizen”.
1.1 Barry Soetoro, a.k.a. Barak Obama, has first allegiance to Indonesia, having Indonesian citizenship with renunciation of US citizenship, by adoption/legal acknowledgment by Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo, a citizen of Indonesia, per Constitution of Indonesia, Law No. 62 of 1958, Art. 2 (1), as required to enroll in Indonesian schools, per school records and travel to Pakistan in 1981; and
1.2 Mr. Obama had first allegiance to the British Crown and to Kenya, being born a citizen of Kenya through his Kenyan birth father Barack Obama, Sr., per Chapter VI. Sections 87 and 97 of the Constitution of Kenya; and being a bipatride under the U.K. Nationality Act of 1948.
2. Mr. Obama failed to produce unambiguous evidence that he is a “natural born Citizen” born to US citizens “in the allegiance of the United States” and he retained that exclusive allegiance.
2.1 Mr. Obama has failed to exhibit unambiguous original evidence that A) he was born to two US citizens “in the allegiance of the United States”, while meeting statutory citizenship requirements, and that B) he retained exclusive allegiance to the United States, including his original vault-version birth certificate and all other legal birth certificate versions and passports; and
2.2 Mr. Obama’s Kenyan paternal step grandmother Sarah Hussein Obama states that she was present at his birth in (Mombosa) Kenya, per Affidavits of Bishop Ron McRae and of Rev. Kweli Shuhubia in Philip J. Berg v. Barack Hussein Obama et al. Fed. Cir. D.PA. Civil No: 08-cv-04083.”
Signature:_______________________________________________
Name:__________________________________________________
Address:________________________________________________
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County: __________________State:____ ZipCode______________
Whoops!
*snip:
he did have several fascinating guests on his show last night.
*should have read:
he did have several fascinating guests on his show tonight.
I did a quick search for genealogical birth records in Vancouver, no dice getting anything online. 120 year wait apparently. Someone in that area might be able to find something in a library.
http://vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/archives/refguides/genealog.htm
All birth, death and marriage records for Vancouver are held by the
British Columbia Vital Statistics Agency,
818 Fort Street, Victoria, B.C. V8W 1H8, Canada. Tel: (250) 952-2681.
605 Robson Street, Room 250, Vancouver, B.C., V6B 5J3
Tel: (604) 660-2937
http://www.vs.gov.bc.ca/genealogy/electronic_index.html
What is available on the electronic index?
* Birth registrations are available from 1872 - 1887 or 120 years after the date of birth.
Bergs’ case(s) are probably useless unless he can actually pry some actual evidence out of Obama and company.
I’ll look around some more tomorrow.
I already knew the time limit for births in B.C. records first become available to the public 75 years after birth unless you are family. It’s something that is being worked on at this time. The home for unwed mothers was the Salvation Army Booth Memorial home and it was torn down in 2002 or 2003. Births at that time took place at Vancouver General Hospital. Entry back into the United States would doubtfully have been recorded as I and other Freepers mentioned in earlier posts. Census records are also a dead end in that regard. I also doubt that births at a home for unwed mothers made it into either “The Vancouver Sun” or “The Vancouver Province”. There might be an adoption website with listings of children from that time looking for birth mothers or mothers looking for chidren. I must admit to having a “CRS” moment trying to remember if B.C. is one of the provinces which has opened birth records.
I see. Do you know for a fact she stayed at the Salvation Army Booth Memorial? Or did she just stay at Vancouver General Hospital for three days or so, then drive back to Washington?
Might be worthwhile to do due diligence on the The Vancouver Sun and The Vancouver Province for announcements, just in case.
nevermind about the home/hospital. :) I’m tired. Back tomorrow.
My theory is that Madelyn’s friend in Seattle made the arrangements for her to go to the home before she was transported to Vancouver General for the birth. She threw the plans into disorder when she changed her mind and kept the baby. In those days when a woman gave birth she was kept in hospital for 5.7 days and the babies were brought for feeding before being returned to the nursery. I’ll see what I can find out about adoption boards in the Vancouver area and will go to the rootsweb boards for Vancouver area as well. At that time births to unwed mothers were NOT announced in the papers! My how times have changed!
www.vitalcertificates.ca/Birth cert.
The announcement at the head of those for British Columbia, stated a 24 hour service. As I read further there are four separate stipulations for those who can apply. Of course that excludes virtually everyone here.
Just so frustrating because in the UK, one can put "family history" and within 48 hours one has it. It could be anyone. It seems that more setbacks, more false leads, the more a little band of researchers keeps on plugging away. One word from me, purely as a genealogy buff.
Bravo!
Thank you!
Correction to my above post. I tested out that website and it failed. It appeared as www.vitalcertificates.ca/BC
Thank you for the recap, I missed the show.
Did Ed say anything at all about the port of entry topic or did he ignore it completely?
LOL I already knew that so started searching adoption boards figuring that someone else at the Booth Memorial Home may be searching for their baby. Worth the searching even if it is a long shot. Too bad someone couldn’t go to Oxford and search the pre-independence records for Kenya, and someone else head to Stanford University in California to go through Tom Mboya’s education files and personal correspondence. I know he used to correspond with Sr while Sr was in the U.S. and his daughter, Susan, said her father took Sr to task for abandoning Jr.
Chief, your explanation sounds reasonable and ties some loose ends together.
The issue of a white woman having a black child in 1961 can not be overstated. It would have been a big deal even in HI, as there were few blacks around then.
The Seattle/Vancouver/HI makes more sense than the Kenya/HI scenario. I just don’t see a woman and a newborn traveling in 1961 so far by air so shortly after birth.
The part about the false address in the birth announcement rings true also—there was a social construct Madelyn Dunham was trying to protect or to create, to give an illusion of legitmacy.
Obama would not be so fiercely protecting his BC if there was not damaging information on it as to his real father or his real place of birth.
You’re way ahead of me. I suspect you know where the Salvation Army Booth Memorial records went. The SA probably has avenues for re-union, but for family only, research purposes doubtful. CA Government looks like a legal dead end, unless there’s some odd situation with the SA relationship. Maybe they went to a hospital for checkups/shots in Washington before leaving (I don’t know the timeline), and someone knows a nurse who wouldn’t mind taking a few minutes to look and confirm or deny at least.
FYI If there is anything you’d like followed up on in Hawaii, contact Polarik. Last I heard, a lawyer is being hired there.
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