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People are focussing on what they believe the story is and are directing their searches to the East Coast thinking that Ann and Obama Sr returned to the U.S. from Kenya and went to look over Harvard. This is complete misdirection which is totally wrong. I feel like I have been shouting to the wind! People have not taken in to account things such as the cost for two “starving university students” to fly return to Kenya nor have they given any consideration to the fact that no doctor would give a pregnant woman the required immunizations for a trip to Kenya!
I know that Obama Sr’s plans were not concrete in May of 1962 nor were they set in spring, summer of 1961 so he would not have visited Harvard after a trip to Kenya! There is no evidence that he left HI from the time of his arrival in 1959 until he left by Madsen Lines on June 22,1962 with his first stop being San Franciso where he had dinner with Hal and Shirley Abercrombie. Hal still remembers the impression Obama Sr made at the restaurant after the three were seated at a table near the kitchen. Obama Sr loudly proclaimed how he was insulted being placed in such a spot and that he was a very important person who deserved better treatment. Obama Sr took a two month tour of the U.S. prior to his arrival at Harvard on “...a cool, crisp fall day.”

If Ann had given birth in Vancouver, B.C. in August,1961 there would be no point in checking Ports of Entry for her return with Jr. At that time security was minimal, and guards would check the driver’s license of the driver but paid no attention to passengers! We also know from Susan Blake that Jr was “...very new and very pink” so when Susan Blake saw him he was quite a newborn. If Ann didn’t know how to change diapers one should ask why and one of the first answers which comes to mind is that she was in a home for unwed mothers. These homes discouraged contact between mothers and babies so no attachment was formed.


1,362 posted on 01/05/2009 6:57:48 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: Chief Engineer

I did a quick search for genealogical birth records in Vancouver, no dice getting anything online. 120 year wait apparently. Someone in that area might be able to find something in a library.

http://vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/archives/refguides/genealog.htm

All birth, death and marriage records for Vancouver are held by the
British Columbia Vital Statistics Agency,
818 Fort Street, Victoria, B.C. V8W 1H8, Canada. Tel: (250) 952-2681.
605 Robson Street, Room 250, Vancouver, B.C., V6B 5J3
Tel: (604) 660-2937

http://www.vs.gov.bc.ca/genealogy/electronic_index.html

What is available on the electronic index?

* Birth registrations are available from 1872 - 1887 or 120 years after the date of birth.

Bergs’ case(s) are probably useless unless he can actually pry some actual evidence out of Obama and company.

I’ll look around some more tomorrow.


1,368 posted on 01/05/2009 7:24:00 PM PST by nominal (Christus dominus. Christus veritas.)
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