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First look at Windows 7 beta 1
ZDNET ^ | December 27th, 2008 | Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Posted on 12/29/2008 8:33:18 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

I have to thank Santa for leaving me a copy of Windows 7 beta 1 in my stocking for Christmas Day. This beta (build 6.1.7000.0.081212-1400) should be the first and only beta from Microsoft of Windows 7, and I’m pleased to report that it’s a good one.

**********************SNIP*********************

Judging by the quality of this build, I expect Windows 7 to be released June/July of ‘09. I really can’t see Microsoft dragging out the release a year.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.zdnet.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: hitech
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To: Dead Corpse
...when MS pushed out that patch that killed AMD based machines by overwriting the wrong *.sys file.

Oooops. LOL.

21 posted on 12/29/2008 9:09:39 AM PST by library user
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To: raybbr

Same cards will download to XP with no problems.


22 posted on 12/29/2008 9:09:40 AM PST by Orange1998
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To: Dead Corpse

What do you mean by “its thread is iffy?” Threading was a big improvement in Vista as XP was largely a single thread of execution. Are you referring to kernel support for threading? (It most certainly is there.) Maybe you mean something else. I don’t know. What you list looks more like “hey look at me I know computers” jargon rather than something that actually makes technical sense.

For what it’s worth, you may want to look into HP as the culprit for that “patch.”


23 posted on 12/29/2008 9:11:39 AM PST by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: library user

Wasn’t funny when the Superintendent’s laptop died because the patch overwrote the regkey defaulting to Intel instead of AMD. Nor was it funny when the same patch took out our Sophos server.


24 posted on 12/29/2008 9:12:13 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Dead Corpse

And by the way, wasn’t that an XP issue?


25 posted on 12/29/2008 9:12:57 AM PST by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: Orange1998

Why the need for 64bit? 32bit ought to be enough for anybody.


26 posted on 12/29/2008 9:13:43 AM PST by library user
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To: flintsilver7
Threading is "iffy". As in, if you are running multiple processes you've got a better than even chance of system hangs and app crashes.

Try this one, load up IE, a chat client, MS Office 2003 with docs and exls files open, Blackberry manager, and Novell's Groupwise.

Now try and print a pdf to an HP network printer. Let me know when you get your print spooler error applet to shut down.

27 posted on 12/29/2008 9:14:55 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: raybbr

I haven’t checked it out yet...


28 posted on 12/29/2008 9:18:36 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Dead Corpse

I’ve had zero problems with running multiple applications on Vista. For that matter, I’ve had zero problems running multiple applications on Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian, XP, or OSX. (By the way, threads are not the same as processes.)

Don’t be so quick to blame the operating system for your printing problems. I’ve had more than my share of problems with JetDirect printers.


29 posted on 12/29/2008 9:19:04 AM PST by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: library user

At Best Buy all Dells are 64 bit. Dell is pushing the 64 when you call saying down the road memory will come in handy. I wish I did not have it.


30 posted on 12/29/2008 9:21:40 AM PST by Orange1998
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To: flintsilver7
It was a patch issue.

Even more fun with Vista...

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/835/1049835/vista-kernel-secure-insists

31 posted on 12/29/2008 9:22:14 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: raybbr
Found this just a minute ago on Newegg. Not good news for those with xD cards.

Cons: My only 2 cons about the camera are that the XD card slot is in the battery compartment "As with almost all compact digital cameras all brands" and that my awesome new camera will not work with Vista 64BIT Edition "only works on 32BIT edition" which was not pointed out on NewEgg or Olympus website. I called today and got a confirmation that 64 BIT OS is incompatible. I would have given this a 5 star, but that bummed me out. I can still take out the XD card and put it in a reader and then transfer my pics to my 64BIT system. Other than that, no cons about the camera it's self.

32 posted on 12/29/2008 9:23:49 AM PST by Orange1998
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To: flintsilver7
By the way, threads are not the same as processes...

Is this your "duh" moment? Multiple apps, only a couple of which are even mutli-thread aware, shouldn't be triggering the issues they are. Looking at event logs and crash dumps showed teh thread handler corrupting the stack.

Under XP, Linux, Mac OS X, they don't.

Under Vista... kablooey..

33 posted on 12/29/2008 9:26:02 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Forget it. I’m sticking with Windows XP Professional until it melts. Windows 7 is going to be crap just like Vista is.


34 posted on 12/29/2008 9:26:52 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: flintsilver7
The software itself is actually much better than XP

So how come new computers that have Vista also have an option to downgrade to XP?

35 posted on 12/29/2008 9:28:10 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: library user

“outdated public perception”

You mean Microsoft is entitled to their reputation back after selling us a broken operating system? That’s not the way the world works. They haven’t yet even tried to pay for their mistake in any fashion.


36 posted on 12/29/2008 9:28:17 AM PST by devere
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To: Dead Corpse
It's the Bizarro World's version of OS X. It's Stupid! It's Ugly! It's Imperfect! It's truly the ne plus ultra of Htrae's consumer electronics industry.

I am continually bemused when people buy knock-offs and then are publicly disappointed by the lack of quality they bargained for.
37 posted on 12/29/2008 9:29:46 AM PST by Goldsborough (Non Sibi)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Windows 7 is going to be crap just like Vista is.

Does anyone other than the mainstream media say Vista is crap? I'm pretty sure even Rush Limbaugh runs Vista on his computers.

38 posted on 12/29/2008 9:30:09 AM PST by library user
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
So how come new computers that have Vista also have an option to downgrade to XP?

That's in case people need their memory more for gaming.

39 posted on 12/29/2008 9:31:04 AM PST by library user
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I love my XP, I guess I will be another member of the growing underground of XP users.


40 posted on 12/29/2008 9:31:08 AM PST by Eye of Unk (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! SA)
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