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FORGET NATURAL BORN, IS HE EVEN A "CITIZEN" ?

Posted on 12/20/2008 6:31:35 PM PST by rocco55

Attorney Berg said Mr. Obama is probably an "illegal alien".

If we cannot access his passports, his birth certificate, his college records:

1. Occidental College records -- Not released 2. Columbia College records -- Not released 3. Columbia Thesis paper -- "Not available" 4. Harvard College records -- Not released 5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released 6. Medical records -- Not released 7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- Not available 8. His Illinois State Senate records -- Not available 9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate -- Not released 10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released 11. Record of baptism -- Not available

and if he has multiple names:

Barack Hussein Obama a/k/a Barry Hussein Obama a/k/a Barack Dunham a/k/a Barry Dunham a/k/a Barack Soetoro a/k/a Barry Soetoro

AND he specifically answered the "Any other names" on his bar application to obtain a law degree as "No", we can be sure MANY things about his past warrant serious and intense investigation !

I e-mailed Governor Lingle prior to Andy Martin's case requesting that she stand up for our Constitution. She IS a Republican and she DID make a comment prior to the election that Mr. Obama had limited political experience, so she may have somewhat of a clue what's going on - maybe a BIG CLUE ! Why else would Hussein send her a "Dear Linda" letter ?

Also, being from CT, I have been e-mailing Cort Wronowski for several weeks. It was TOO PITIFUL to see how the state dismissed his case and according to a radio interview, Leo said the state of CT refused to hear his case on improper grounds that did not even apply to his application as it was submitted. SURPRISE ! SURPRISE !

I also wrote Joseph Lieberman (our CT Senator) via certified mail and explained "in detail" the legitimacy of the TRUTH regarding "Factcheck", the short form cert and Obama's "sealed" history ! Is this the behavior of a cooperative official who wants to get to the TRUTH and bring about all this CHANGE ?

I informed him that, to date, there is NOT ONE hospital or medical facility in all Hawaii that has ANY record of Mr. Obama's birth and asked point blank: "Does this, in your highly qualified legal opinion, pose even the slightest 'shadow of a doubt' of this candidate's qualifications ?"

I further stated that if Mr. Obama is inaugurated on 1/20/09, he will place his hand on the Bible and vow to the American people that he will:

"PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES" ! !

I asked Mr. Lieberman:

"Could anything be more IMMEASURABLY IRONIC ????"

About 10 days back, I ran a post in FreeRepublic inquiring about OBAMA'S COLLEGE YEARBOOK. He graduated from Harvard in 1991, but is NOT in the 1991 Harvard Yearbook ! If he was the President of the Harvard Law Review, WHY NOT ?

I went on EBAY and searched EVERY possible college document, article, yearbook, alumni book, sports journal, etc. for Occidental, Princeton and Harvard Universities. I e-mailed questions to the sellers of the applicable items and asked if there was ANY mention of Barry or Barack and ALL of the replies were "NO, SORRY" !

One FreeRepublic reader commented that he went to Harvard personally and searched all College newspapers, announcements, etc., during the Obama years and was dismayed to find "several" missing pages ! He went to other years (prior and after Obama's attendance) and the papers were all intact ! Is this a coincidence ?

Obama's staff probably frequents this site daily to keep one step ahead of the competition. Having unlimited resources and a 30 million dollar campaign surplus, he can afford to have a 24/7 staff searching ANY negative feedback and once they find it, they can GOOGLE it to death with rebuttals. I told a friend who accused me of being an "ultra-right-wing die-hard Republican" about six weeks ago to search 'Obama birth certificate' on line and see for herself.

She wrote back and said the first 6 hits all said the birth cert is real and it was even verified by TWO reviewers "FactCheck" and "PolitiFact" ! Pul----lease !

I was recently summoned for Jury Duty and today I wrote the Judicial Branch of CT that I will not serve Jury duty because the state of CT turned down Cort Wronowski's case and sent in their electoral votes without verifying that Mr. Obama is a natural born citizen and he may not even be a U.S. citizen AT ALL ! Consequently, I cannot serve a judicial system that does not uphold and defend our Constitution.

Obama most likely attended college as a "foreign student" and is possibly still not a legal U.S. citizen. Why else would he go to such great lengths to "seal" ---or better stated, "CONCEAL" his past ?

The dilemma we face is, without someone kidnapping his children and holding them hostage for his birth cert, we might all DIE with that document sitting in a vault ! How sad is that ?

I entertained the idea of actually renting a Highway Billboard (I heard it's approximately $1500 for one month) with a slogan that could not be regarded as racist --possibly :

"I'D RATHER HAVE A PRESIDENT THAT IS 100% BLACK AND HONEST THAN ONE WHO IS HALF-WHITE AND WON'T SHOW HIS BIRTH CERT ! "

How else can we get the attention of ANYONE ? 99% of all Americans do not even know there is a CRISIS going on because when the MSM covers a "lawsuit dismissal", it is portrayed in a such a negative light with the usual "Factcheck" references and the "mis-information" that the state of Hawaii has "confirmed that Obama was born there", that the public has no choice but to accept it ! Of course, they think we're kooks ! It's what they're being told by NBC, CBS, FOX, Associated Press, etc.

Would it make sense to file a more basic and fundamental lawsuit (possibly against Pelosi, who had the unmitigated gall to sign off on his eligibility) to verify if Hussein is even a U. S. citizen AT ALL ? Would that obligate the defendants to produce even a passport, or this that TOO MUCH to hope for ? !

I find myself searching and praying for ANY legitimate way of exposing this Usurper...only saving grace is, if we are near the "end of the World", maybe this is part of God's plan....when ancient Israel rejected Him, He gave them what they wanted "King Saul", who proved to be unfaithful and was superseded by David...but for us, we can still fight and appeal our cause....even JESUS called Herod a "fox" !

Any attorneys out there ? Is a case against Pelosi worth pursuing ? Is the "cititzen" question, in and of itself (without the 'natural born' issue) a case less likely to be dismissed ? Can anyone else brainstorm a better option ??


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KEYWORDS: bho2008; birthcertificate; certifigate; choomgang; obama; obamagate; obamatruthfile; rinobullies
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To: hoosiermama

Exactly, As our inquisition heated up from July -October, the level of pleas to forget the issue and move on increased 10 fold on this board.

There were many FReepers with ideas to publicize the issue or take it too the campaign trail.

Too bad we didn’t blow-off the campaign warnings and act.
Too bad we had the one candidate whose NB status was under scrutiny.

Makes you wonder if that is the ultimate reason why they wanted MAC so badly
as our candidate.


181 posted on 12/21/2008 1:13:44 PM PST by Gemsbok (If wishes were horses, than beggars would ride.)
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To: Old Sarge; TribalPrincess2U; CaribouCrossing

I’ll vouch for Old Sarge. If you really want to go back and look at his record of postings, including the pictures when he got his SFC pinned, you will realize he is a real patriot.


182 posted on 12/21/2008 1:18:16 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The main stream media lied - America died.)
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To: autumnraine

Raine, thank you - for once, someone who is at least a little courteous in trying to convince me to help.

It was the same during the campaign: “Support my candidate or you’re a gay idiot.” Really got me to think positively about their issue.

The simple fact is, the only way the Right can win right now, is not to lose. And trying to keep this SCOTUS stuff going is a guaranteed loss. The Right needs to pick their battles better. We are not fighting a culture war any longer; we are now an insurgency.


183 posted on 12/21/2008 1:19:22 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: little jeremiah

The propeller-heads are moving stuff around AGAIN!

I would appreciate the name of a reliable (not expensive) web host that can provide me web services with 99% uptime.

Must have MS SQL Server and MS Expression.

I’m really pissed at thrse guys.


184 posted on 12/21/2008 1:20:02 PM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: Arrowhead1952; Old Sarge; TribalPrincess2U; CaribouCrossing

Thanks Arrowhead.
I will vouch for him too.
Sarge is a decorated Veteran, and a Dear FRiend besides.
He is no “poser.”
I sent him care packages from home while he was in Iraq.
Just think, he defended your right to be a horses ass.
You ought to be ashamed Tribal Princess and Caribou.
Too bad you can’t seem to disagree with somebody without attacking them personally.


185 posted on 12/21/2008 1:38:07 PM PST by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: Old Sarge; TribalPrincess2U
Aloha Sarge!

What fine mess did ya get into this time? Look sharply!


You're going to owe me a case of beer, Sarge!

Aloha kakahiaka Tribal Princess!

Old Sarge is not a poser. He's an Iraq war vet who took excellent care of his troops in the thick of the conflagration and swore the same oath to 'Protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America....' without reservation.

He may be a pain in the ass from time to time but he's true to his country and his countrymen (and women....persons....whatever) and he's my friend.
186 posted on 12/21/2008 1:39:39 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
Posers will try anything.
FR can smell them a mile away.

Get some Afrin, yer sniffer's plugged up. You may not agree with Old Sarge's position, but the last thing you can call him is a poser.

Old Sarge has more time in uniform as a commissioned officer than most FReepers have time as members of this board. And that was his first go-round.

187 posted on 12/21/2008 1:42:02 PM PST by HiJinx (~ Support our Troops ~ www.americasupportsyou.mil ~)
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To: BIGLOOK

Aloha, B. Bravo Zulu.


188 posted on 12/21/2008 1:43:20 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: CaribouCrossing
In my opinion, there are some people who post online and use names such as “sarge” to give people the impression that they have served in the U.S. military. Every veteran that I know cares deeply about the Obama birth certificate issue and would never try to convince others that this issue should not be pursued.

'Every veteran I know' is not the universe of veterans. Accept the fact that some of us have opinions that differ from your sphere of experience.

189 posted on 12/21/2008 1:44:26 PM PST by HiJinx (~ Support our Troops ~ www.americasupportsyou.mil ~)
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To: Beckwith

Well, at least it was propeller heads and not team 0bama.


190 posted on 12/21/2008 1:53:16 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: Old Sarge; TribalPrincess2U; CaribouCrossing

TribalPrincess2U and CaribouCrossinging, in this case you’re barking up the wrong tree.

Old Sarge is a decorated Veteran, as well as a good FRiend, and I will vouch for him.

Thank you for your years of service to our great Country, and for posting on Free Republic, Old Sarge; we’re fortunate to have you here.


191 posted on 12/21/2008 1:58:09 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Old Sarge
Check for messages in the previous post, Army. Look sharply. Do we have to teach you everything?


192 posted on 12/21/2008 1:59:18 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: BIGLOOK
Nothing I already don't know, Squid...


193 posted on 12/21/2008 2:16:11 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: Old Sarge

See, I kind of feel we need to go at this with two fronts. No DOUBT at all that we need to replace the Republicans that are bending over and acting like Democrats! We totally agree on that.

But also, at the same time, if there is a faction of the group who wants to pursue a possibility, slender though it may be, why not let them? I intend to multitask myself.

I do not think this should be the only one at the forefront though. I think this issue should be made aware to the public, but also not be the ONLY game plan. You know?


194 posted on 12/21/2008 2:27:14 PM PST by autumnraine
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To: Old Sarge

Oh yeah, and you’re a gay idiot.

(wink wink)


195 posted on 12/21/2008 2:27:39 PM PST by autumnraine
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To: Old Sarge


Now let's get series.....a lot of folks I work with are Green Cards, mostly from the P.I. Many others come from Micronesia but by law they're not required to register as foreign nationals. Hawaii has had a long standing history of allowing G.C. holders to bring in their immediate family and have their births registered in the state, even if they weren't born in the state. This sustained the plantations with contented labor once....and if it worked for the FORNATS, it worked for the Dunhams. I think this is the case with O.
196 posted on 12/21/2008 2:29:17 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: Beckwith; LucyT
I would appreciate the name of a reliable (not expensive) web host that can provide me web services with 99% uptime.

May I suggest posting a Chat thread that asks this question? Plenty of tech-savvy Freepers around.

197 posted on 12/21/2008 3:02:19 PM PST by Slings and Arrows ("Every few generations the really, really bad ideas come back around for another go."--Howard Tayler)
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To: Canedawg
Who's his daddy?

Well if that's his Daddy, then is a natural born citizen, regardless of where he was born.

But that would be nothing to keep secret, so I doubt that's his Daddy as shown on his long form Certification of Birth. (Malcom X was born in 1925 as Malcolm Little in Omaha, Nebraska)

198 posted on 12/21/2008 4:50:18 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

“Well if that’s his Daddy, then is a natural born citizen, regardless of where he was born.”

Yup. It would negate that whole issue, but only if the BC verified that. His mother may have put down her putative husband’s name on the BC, though it turned out he was a bigamist. And she may not have been very monogamous either.

There certainly is a resemblance...


199 posted on 12/21/2008 5:02:53 PM PST by Canedawg ("The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it")
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To: The_Media_never_lie
At the very least, I cannot understand why someone would have aliases unless the purpose was to conceal ones identity for unwholesome activities.

There are reasons. A pen name is an alias. So is your FReeper screen name. (I assure you my name is not "The Cat".

However the form doesn't ask about aliases, but rather other names the person might have gone by. Whenever I fill out security paperwork, I have to add an "AKA", because my father never liked my first name, and always called me by a variant of my middle name. Thus I'm "AKA 'variant'".

In Barack's case he should have at minimum put down "AKA Barry", but also probably "AKA Barry Sotero", maybe Barry Dunham, etc.

200 posted on 12/21/2008 5:06:06 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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