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Nice red herring. There IS no 'consensus' at this point, there is a general belief that there is *something* or *someone* making an appearance in our atmosphere, on the ground, in the near regions of space around our planet, and your problem is that your abysmal talents of observation and analysis cannot even begin to compare with the abilities and skills of professional pilots and astronauts. In a hypothetical court proceeding, their statements as to what they have observed would be given far greater credence than yours, because they've been professionally trained, you're just a whining contrarian.

You call consensus a red herring, then immediately talk about consensus, of a "general belief", and attack my credentials when you haven't a clue as to what I am. That's a hallmark of liberal thinking. (Take your previous posts, change your subject from flying saucers to global warming and read it back to us, please). But anyway, pilots have been known to mistake Venus for something else, same as us ground dwellers.

Let's take that a little further. Seeing as you deign to be superior enough to say that I'm too low on the food chain to make rational observations, let's see just how good you are. Can you tell with accuracy whether a car goes by your house at 60 miles an hour? At 70? At 80?

Can you see an airliner, not too far over the horizon, (with it's landing lights on) and tell me whether it's at an altitude of 10 thousand feet? 33 thousand? Can you tell anyone with accuracy whether it's 5 miles away from you or 20 or 35 or 50? Can an airline pilot see a flaming meteor out the window and accurately say whether that meteor was 6 miles away or 60 or 600? There's no scale, no reference points in the sky, no graph overlaid, so even your hallowed highly trained pilots testifying before an activist judge ultimately can't be any more accurate than anyone else could be with a meteor event that happens in a couple of seconds.

Bonus round 1: There's a reason why there's a green light on one wingtip and a red one on the other. Why?

Bonus round 2: Do your hallowed pilots and astronauts fall for all the ill-defined blobs of light such as what this thread subject is about? How many of them subscribe to flying saucer rags or are members of flying saucer forums?

Demerit round: you left Edgar Mitchell's name off your deities list.

A "thinking" man would not dismiss out of hand alternate possibilities using the weak minded argument of "no proof, it doesn't exist", and pull those blinders ever tighter over their eyes. The fact is, it is you who exhibits the classic liberal mindset in that you refuse to acknowledge or consider anything that doesn't fit into your liberal orthodoxy of denial. It is conservatives who traditionally keep an open mind about ALL things, not accepting blanket statements or mindlessly swallowing blind statements of disbelief from those who haven't got a clue, like you.

In your warped little world, unless you too saw an apple fall from a tree to the ground, Sir Isaac Newton would be one of those 'hoaxers' or 'carnival barkers' you were mewling about last night.

Typical projection.

However did you get the idea that I (or anyone else) was closed minded to the possibility of alien life in such a vast Universe? Just because I personally am not sympathetic to the idea that aliens are here practicing proctology, barnstorming, and farming methods doesn't mean life doesn't exist elsewhere. It only means that space aliens coming to Earth are the Freudian and Jungian constructs of the kook fringe.

It only means that space aliens coming to Earth are the Freudian and Jungian constructs of the kook fringe.

LOL! Such brutal honesty will win you no friends, JoJo.

Nice red herring. There IS no 'consensus' at this point, there is a general belief that there is *something* or *someone* making an appearance in our atmosphere, on the ground, in the near regions of space around our planet, and your problem is that your abysmal talents of observation and analysis cannot even begin to compare with the abilities and skills of professional pilots and astronauts. In a hypothetical court proceeding, their statements as to what they have observed would be given far greater credence than yours, because they've been professionally trained, you're just a whining contrarian.
You call consensus a red herring, then immediately talk about consensus, of a "general belief", and attack my credentials when you haven't a clue as to what I am.

There is a vast difference between 'consensus', meaning that (for example) everyone agrees that there is a specific ignoramus in Tennessee that is damned and determined to deny, defy and debunk any and all suggestions of extraterrestrial manifestations in, on and around our Earth. That would be 'consensus'. A 'general belief' would be that everyone agrees that there are any number of intellectually challenged individuals all across the 50 states that prefer to 'deny, deny, deny'. That is the difference, despite your sputtering to the contrary.

That's a hallmark of liberal thinking. (Take your previous posts, change your subject from flying saucers to global warming and read it back to us, please).

This has nothing to do with global warming, and invoking yet another red herring does nothing for your shaky position.

But anyway, pilots have been known to mistake Venus for something else, same as us ground dwellers.

Why of COURSE, it's that sneaky Planet Venus again, those pilots must have missed the memo about Venus showing up at all times day and night, hiding behind clouds, just waiting to pop out and go "BOO!" at any moment.

You're channeling Phil Klass aren't you? LOL

[irrelevant brain teasers from Readers Digest, et al snipped]

Demerit round: you left Edgar Mitchell's name off your deities list.

So what? You probably consider him insane, demented, or a liar, right?

A "thinking" man would not dismiss out of hand alternate possibilities using the weak minded argument of "no proof, it doesn't exist", and pull those blinders ever tighter over their eyes. The fact is, it is you who exhibits the classic liberal mindset in that you refuse to acknowledge or consider anything that doesn't fit into your liberal orthodoxy of denial. It is conservatives who traditionally keep an open mind about ALL things, not accepting blanket statements or mindlessly swallowing blind statements of disbelief from those who haven't got a clue, like you.
In your warped little world, unless you too saw an apple fall from a tree to the ground, Sir Isaac Newton would be one of those 'hoaxers' or 'carnival barkers' you were mewling about last night.
Typical projection.

LOL, "typical projection", why not save yourself the bother and just put your hands over your ears and scream "I know you are, but what am I?"

You are so utterly predictable that clocks can could be set, based on your responses.

However did you get the idea that I ~~(or anyone else)~~ was closed minded to the possibility of alien life in such a vast Universe? Just because I personally am not sympathetic to the idea that aliens are here practicing proctology, barnstorming, and farming methods doesn't mean life doesn't exist elsewhere. It only means that space aliens coming to Earth are the Freudian and Jungian constructs of the kook fringe.

Your agitation and pathetic vitriol directed at those who are have actually witnessed this type of phenomena (when you, a self described 'ground dweller' have probably not), is all that is needed to conclude that your mind is closed except to the narrow construct which you just pecked out suggesting that life might 'exist' elsewhere. But nowhere in this thread have your sub topics of 'proctology, barnstorming and farming methods' even been discussed.

A normal and sane person would probably be getting concerned at this point about your repeated references to proctology.

Personally, I don't think we need to hear about your family tree. LOL

*ding ding*

See ya later Sparkplug.

[PING to DieHard, figured you might enjoy some cheap entertainment, lol]