Posted on 11/25/2008 3:21:02 PM PST by JoeProBono
Denise Lynch Murter’s story began last April when her Yorkie named Alex began growling and awoke her from a deep sleep. “I thought it was an intruder at first,” she said. “I went outside and saw it. It was shaped like a boomerang and had three lights like the headlamps of a car up in the sky.” Murter believes she saw a UFO outside her Falls home. And so does the Discovery Channel. On Monday night the cable channel aired its special “UFOs over Earth” and Murter along with her daughter and husband, Dan, tuned in. The topic wasn’t the only draw for the Murter family, Denise’s story was featured on the hour-long show.
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Do you have a link to that?
My ping to you has been erased.
unfounded, poorly researched,
thoroughly unmitigated hogwash, I see.
No, that happens at sites dedicated to flying saucers.
I take my leave for now.For a few weeks at least.
Thanks.
Interesting, alright.
Unless someone is so full of themselves that they have no capacity for a new thought; new evidence; new realities.
In how many other areas of your life . . .
have you tended to throw out
the baby with the bathwater?
The natural state of man is to also grow into adulthood. As cold as reality can be, we can live in it.
What a shock. Another blurry “UFO” photo.
= = =
I can readily believe that.
It saddens me to think that quite possibly/probably . . . your sad . . . stance, construction on reality, position . . . has resulted from a sequence of events not very much under your control except in your responses to them.
Visceral intense disappointment at having a set of cherished assumptions, beliefs, perspectives majorly challenged etc. can be a very traumatic thing at any age and particularly as a youth. I've had plenty of experience with such.
It also saddens me that someone as bright as you seems to be so easily and persistently plagued with a very lopsided vulnerability to a TYPE II error so unnecessarily and so . . . out-of-balance-ly.
Reality is exceedingly complex.
Many of us at various stages of our lives have had a tendency, even a compulsion or a compulsive addiction to slamming everything into stark black and white categories. And some things ought to be treated that way. However, now everything.
I certainly slam the UFO stuff into a black category in terms of good/evil. That is one superordinate construct that governs my perspective on reality rather wholesale.
However, in terms of a long list of other aspects of the phenomena . . . things are too complex to be very narrowly or starkly--much less compulsively--arbitrary in assigning to black or white categories.
I can't recall ever running into a single naysayer on the topic who seemed really able or willing to treat the evidence fair-mindedly. They VIRTUALLY ALWAYS seemed compelled to slam things unfittingly into narrow categories that seemed starkly arbitrary; starkly blind to major portions and aspects of the evidence; starkly blind to very crucial nuances of the evidence data set.
As a psychologist, that has long puzzled me. You may have provided a very significant clue as to what tends to be going on with such--visceral disappointment and/or hostility that reality doesn't conform as preferred or once preferred.
And, that somehow, the tension over the complexity and/or over other disturbing prospects foisted on consciousness by the data set is simply SOOOOOO INTOLERABLE to various personality types with various backgrounds--
THEIR ONLY RECOURSE IS ARBITRARY, STARK, RIGID, NARROW, BLIND, ALL-OR-NOTHING sorts of responses and constructions on reality.
That's sad on a personal level.
It's also not very scientific; not very rational; not very given to insuring a reasonable and realistic vulnerability to a TYPE II ERROR vs an overwhelming probability of being whacked rather fiercely upside the head by a TYPE II error sooner or later.
I don't have a solution.
Events will eventually crash such a naysaying perspective on the UFO phenomena. It's simply a scheduled part of the END TIMES scenarios.
However, I don't think that crashing of naysayers' perspectives will be a very calm or pleasant one. And that concerns me greatly.
I have a similar concern for a host of Christians who are not particularly naysayers but more willfully dismissive and willfully ignoring of an uncomfortable aspect of present reality. Yet, doing so in a way and from a perspective that puts their faith somewhat at risk if they refuse to face the realities and seek God's face about them. When disclosure is forced upon the world, and they have no well-thought-out categories with which to sort the 'new reality' very Biblically.
I'm concerned that the GREAT DECEPTION Scripture speaks about and which I think includes the UFO stuff rather intimately--will crash some folks' theology simply because they will be so overwhelmed with so many very slick, very sophisticated, very technologically presented, very comprehensive, very massive deceptions in a short period of time.
The RATE OF CHANGE of average daily reality is already putting a great stress on massive numbers of people. I do't know how many millions of premature deaths have already resulted from that single fact alone but I suspect it's quite significant.
However, the rate of change and the degrees and types of change already putting so many millions under such a wholesale chronic burden of intense stress is NOTHING compared to that which the brazen wholesale disclosure of the UFO stuff will foster. Truly, the Biblical "hearts failing them for fear" will be a routine thing at that point.
That's a MAJOR reason why I bother with the UFO threads and topic at all. That's a major reason I put up with all the personal attacks and grossly hostile, grossly outrageous personal insults. I want folks to be MUCH more prepared to deal with such than they are now. Lives are worth a LOT of demeaning, viscous insults. A single life is worth a lot of insults.
It might be different IF I had the luxury of uncertainty in the matter. The biggest chunk of that was removed when my relative disclosed to me his experiences around the craft. Lots of other chunks have been removed over the years.
About the time I would simply grow weary of the dreadfully occultish, globalist, satanic elements of the phenomena . . . The Lord would insure that a well known expert or some other undeniable set of inputs would 'just happen' to cross my path and consciousness . . . ALONG WITH His subtle to not so subtle exhortation to still keep tabs on it . . . to still be up-to-date and ready to help the Body of Christ deal with it as He led and particularly when particularly called for.
So, I have tried to continue a faithful watchman on the wall. It's certainly not been a particularly favored role. It is an important one.
Thankfully, folks like GUY MALONE solid Christian founder of
Have provided helpful encouragement along the way.
OThuga's SELECTION by the globalists has certainly signaled a press to rush to the global government ASAP. I can't imagine that overtly happening very extensively without the UFO stuff being overtly outted. It's tooooooo wrapped up in satan's plans for too many millenia.
And, it is toooooo much part and parcel of the globalist leaders themselves being so duped by satan. They really do believe that GOD ALMIGHTY is merely an 'also ran' run-of-the-mill ET leader that THEY and THEIR "ET" buddies will !DEFEAT! at Armageddon. What idiocy.
Satan knows better but is happy, gleeful to take all the globalist useful idiot leaders to hell with him--partly via such a GRAND DECEPTION--so many millenia in the setting up.
Anyway--OThuga's coronation [unless the Supreme Court does it's job successfully] signals, to me, another speeding up of the END TIMES scenarios--PART OF WHICH--will HAVE to include overt disclosure of SOME aspects of the UFO phenomena. Looks to me like, it could easily be within the first 4 years of such a reign. Most probably within the 8 years of a two term reign.
On the other hand, if, as some seem so convinced, there is to be WWIII and martial law within the first 4 years . . . I'd guess that the UFO stuff would be outted, at least a lot more, in the midst of such a conflagration.
Probably under the postulation that in order to keep us from destroying ourselves and the planet, we MUST comply, submit, kowtow to the "ET" arranged, brokered, forced, assisted global government.
Certainly OThuga would be gleeful to play a major role in facilitating that. That's one reason the USA is being so liberally trashed economically and in a list of other ways already--to make arranging that easier and less costly to the globalist forces.
Anyway--you likely have heard it first hereon. There are websites who have bits and pieces more elaborately and with whatever insider list of documentation. However, I think this is a fair summary/broad outline.
Let all Christians be wise virgins with extra Oil of Holy Spirit flowing well within them and their lives . . . stored up with extra prayer and fasting as led of God.
As Christ Himself exhorted--WATCH; BE READY; BE WISE.
BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.
Shalom!
Some of the things I know so far....
John D Mack, Stanton Friedman, Whitley Strieber, and Budd Hopkins are secular humanists.
Whitley Strieber came out saying that he wasn't sure if his UFO experiences were real and Budd Hopkins book, Witnessed has been reported as fake.
I think the abduction reports done by Hopkins and Mack are suspect and should only be taken with a grain a salt. And I think Hopkins hurt the UFO community with his books. Ted Phillips who followed the steps of Dr. J. Allen Hynek worked tirelessly collecting evidence and doing research and got pushed aside when Hopkins came on the scene and used hypnoses and a few scoop marks as proof of abductions. It just seem to set back the whole UFO community as far as credibly was concerned and it allowed many kooks and jokesters to get their 15 minutes of fame.
I think the UFO field is getting better with people like the UFO Hunters and their scientific investigations. But the field must also rid itself of charlatans.
Thanks for your kind words.
BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.
I greatly appreciate your ministry hereon, too.
LUB
IT SEEMS that the point about the TYPE II ERROR was wholesale missed.
When one leans sooooooooooooo extremely far to one side to avoid the slightest risk of a TYPE I ERROR,
ONE IS AUTOMATICALLY MAKING ONE’S SELF EXCESSIVELY VULNERABLE—NEARLY, sooner or later, TO THE POINT OF CERTAINTY
OF FALLING VICTIM TO A TYPE II ERROR.
AND TYPE II ERRORS CAN BE EVERY BIT AS DEADLY AS TYPE I ERRORS.
I don’t know that allegations of Hopkins being a charlatan or his Witnessed being false are well founded.
He’s a layman.
He’s an artist.
He’s had some training in hypnosis.
Beyond that, he’s a self-taught UFO expert and one of the best known with a wealth of material under his belt primarily because soooooooooo many experiencers have sought him out because they didn’t know who else to go to.
I applaud him trying to help hurting people make sense of their experiences.
I deplore his and all the other famous researchers refusal to talk about the fact that authentic Born Again Christians are not abducted and/or stop attempted abductions cold by calling on the name of JESUS.
Whether he is in the employ or under the influence or even control of the puppet masters I don’t know. Wouldn’t greatly surprise me, if he was.
W. Streiber has been alleged to be under the GPTB’s control for a long time. Who knows.
I’ve noted elsewhere that Stanton Friedman saddened me the last time I talked to him—March—when it was clear that he was singing the party line about ET’s maybe helping or forcing us to come together in a global government though he didn’t say it that starkly. That’s clearly where he was headed in what he was saying.
Nevertheless, Stanton is a great researcher and a very sharp mind who has shredded a lot of “debunkers” with 3/4th’s his brain tied behind his back.
Stanton could probably shred the debunkers hereon with 9/10ths of his brain tied behind his back.
You seem to still be quite to very, very interested . . .
it seems extremely difficult to impossible for you to avoid throwing rocks on UFO threads.
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