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The Black Hole Gets Bigger: AIG Back for Yet Another Bailout
Naked Capitalism ^ | 11/08/08

Posted on 11/09/2008 4:45:48 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Saturday, November 8, 2008

The Black Hole Gets Bigger: AIG Back for Yet Another Bailout

The Financial Times reports that AIG is up to its old tricks, back again to the trough for more money. Christmas The Iceland credit default swaps settlement is coming soon, you know.

The worst is that AIG is pretending to act as if this is a negotiation as opposed to extortion. Get a load of this crap:

AIG’s executives were on Friday night locked in negotiations with the authorities over a plan that could involve a debt-for-equity swap and the government’s purchase of troubled mortgage-backed securities from the insurer.

Ahem, are they trying to help the government by coming up with a fig leaf? Are they assuming that everyone forgot the terms of the original loan? From the Fed's press release:

The interests of taxpayers are protected by key terms of the loan. The loan is collateralized by all the assets of AIG, and of its primary non-regulated subsidiaries. These assets include the stock of substantially all of the regulated subsidiaries. The loan is expected to be repaid from the proceeds of the sale of the firm’s assets. The U.S. government will receive a 79.9 percent equity interest in AIG and has the right to veto the payment of dividends to common and preferred shareholders.

The "interests of taxpayers are protected bit" now looks like a complete joke. The original loan was ALREADY secured by ALL of AIG's assets. Everything that could be hocked WAS ALREADY hocked. And the government has a 79.9% equity interest. So what is this talk of a debt for equity swap? The government doesn't want to go over 79.9%, then it has to consolidate the operations on its balance sheet. And it has the right of first refusal on everything else (the fact that it has all the assets as security means they cannot be sold unless the proceeds are remitted to the Fed. The mechanics ought to be that AIG gets some sort of waiver in order to complete a sale, but I am certain somewhere the lawyers have a procedure in mind, since it was understood from the get-go that AIG would repay the loan via asset sales).

The idea of selling dodgy MBS to the Fed is also ludicrous, but that does not mean the Fed will not go ahead with it. Again, the Fed now has ALL of AIG's assets as security. So it is going to increase what it lends to AIG, since AIG really has the upper hand, and AIG is offering the ruse of pledging the MBS because other banks have used MBS as collateral for loans, and version 1.0 of the TARP was to have banks sell crappy MBS to Treasury. So AIG presumably hopes that the Fed will gamble that the generally inattentive public at large will think this latest move resembles other bank rescue activities and therefore will not make angry calls to Congressmen. But this is all a ruse.

This is the essence of AIG's latest proposal:

Man walks into pawn broker. He says to the person behind the counter, "You know that watch I brought in two weeks ago? I know you lent me $85, but now I need another $50. And I will tell you why you will give it to me. I have a gun with me. I will blow my brains out here, right now. With your nice carpet, I guarantee it will cost you more than $50 to clean up your store. And that's before we get into the cost of keeping your store closed while you clean my grey matter off your walls and what my suicide might do to your store's reputation."

Oh, and we forgot to mention that the man in the story above pulled the same trick last week and it worked like a charm.

The other bit that is offensive is (separately) that AIG is unhappy that it is paying more its bailout than banks did for theirs. The arrogance is breathtaking. Banks and securities firms are regulated by Federal agencies. The fact that they came close to going under says the oversight was defective, and one can argue that the government was required to prevent a disaster that happened on its watch.

The federal government has NO oversight over AIG. Its mess was SOLELY AIG's own doing, and they should consider themselves incredibly lucky that they were so big that the Fed felt it has to intercede.

Now they think they are entitled to demand an improvement of terms? They should be told to take a long walk off a short pier (the management, that is). If we are merely going to salvage random about-to-fail-that-might-hurt-the-financial-markets players, I'd much rather rescue GM. They at least have a better attitude (and Obama made noises that he would demand better fuel efficiency as a quid pro quo). And I have far more sympathy for blue collar workers than AIG executives.

And if the interest really is too much for AIG on a current basis, no reduction in rate or debt-for-equity optics. Just lower the proportion that has to be paid in cash, and add the deferred interest to the principal. No free lunches here.

But then again, the Fed does not want brains and skull fragments all over its board room....

From the Financial Times:

AIG is asking the US government for a new bail-out less than two months after the Federal Reserve came to the rescue of the stricken insurer with an $85bn loan...

People close to the talks said the discussions were on-going and might still collapse, but added that AIG was pressing for a decision before it reports third-quarter results on Monday...

The moves come amid growing fears AIG might soon use up the $85bn cash infusion it received from the Fed in September, as well as an additional $37.5bn loan aimed at stemming a cash drain from the insurer’s securities lending unit.

AIG has drawn down more than $81bn of the combined $122.5bn facility. The company’s efforts to begin repaying it before the 2010 deadline have been hampered by its difficulties in selling assets amid the global financial turmoil.

AIG executives have complained to government officials that the interest rate on the initial loan – 8.5 per cent over the London Interbank Borrowing Rate – is crippling the company.

They compared the loan’s terms with the 5 per cent interest rate paid by the banks that recently sold preferred shares to the government.

One of AIG’s proposals to the Fed is to swap the loan, which gave the authorities an 80 per cent stake in the company, for preferred shares or a mixture of debt and equity.

Such a structure would reduce the interest rate to be paid by AIG and possibly the overall amount it has to repay. An extension in the term of the loan from the current two years to five years is also possible, according to people close to the situation.

The renegotiation of the loan could be accompanied by the government’s purchase of billions of dollars in mortgage-backed securities whose steep fall in value has been draining AIG cash reserves.

AIG is also proposing the government buy the bonds underlying its troubled portfolio of credit default swaps in exchange for the roughly $30bn in collateral the company holds against the assets.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: aig; bailout; blackhole
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No, black hole is not getting bigger. It is pretty huge to begin with.
1 posted on 11/09/2008 4:45:48 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: PAR35; TigerLikesRooster; bamahead; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 11/09/2008 4:46:20 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Expect more of this.

Off topic, the term “black hole” will be changed to something like “dense dot”, mark my words.


3 posted on 11/09/2008 4:49:49 AM PST by ChetNavVet (Build It, and they won't come!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

No where in this article does the writer lay any blame with Congress or the Bush administration for implementing this socialist bail out plan. If they had let AIG wither on the vine then the economy would have eliminated an inefficient group of people who would not be asking for more. This socialist thinking only creates more takers which cannot be sustained over the long term.


4 posted on 11/09/2008 4:54:14 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Just like the real thing, no bigger, just the continual sucking of taxpayers’ cash and kids’ futures into the unknown.


5 posted on 11/09/2008 4:55:33 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Guess they either need money for Christmas bonuses or to take their execs on another expensive trip.
6 posted on 11/09/2008 4:57:59 AM PST by MissEdie
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“They compared the loan’s terms with the 5 per cent interest rate paid by the banks that recently sold preferred shares to the government.”

Which is another piece of trash. We, the taxpayers, got approximatley half the deal that the Brits or Buffett got.

It shames me that this gargage is going on under a Republican administration. Every right thinking person knew that AIG was a black hole. I say no more money - the Feds should seize their assets and parcel out the remains. No compensation for the upper management and certainly no dollars for the shareholders. The bondholders simply have to stand in line like the rest (or go to the Plan B proposal of turning those bond holders into equity holders of the company, after we get repaid of course.


7 posted on 11/09/2008 4:58:32 AM PST by exhaustguy
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” just the continual sucking of taxpayers’ cash and kids’ futures into the unknown. “

Ross Perot’s “Giant Sucking Sound” fades to a whisper in comparison...

“We has met the enemy, and he is us”......


8 posted on 11/09/2008 5:03:33 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Sometimes I sets and thinks, and sometimes I jus' sets.........)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This is insane. Industry needs to fail then self correct.
Printing more money which is becoming worthless, artifically inflating the economy with rate cuts, housing bubble etc. Plans to overtax the nation when noone has money. I really see hard times ahead. I think things are going to get worse. Tell Prozac Pelosi no.


9 posted on 11/09/2008 5:07:28 AM PST by Lady GOP
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To: Man50D
There is a connection with Soviet Gigantic-ism, Federalism, Corporatism. All with a disproved premise that large, monoculture organizations produce efficiencies that many smaller, discrete organizations don't.

It's fine in the private sector, in theory. Take GM, if GM goes down, fine, we have twenty other firms that are or will take it's place in supplying customer needs and wants. Of course do to politics, GM, and Ford and the wealthy private profiteers of Chrysler, will become like AIG.

Anyways, back to large Organizations. They are like having all your chickens grown in one single fifty mile long coop. Something goes wrong, you get a disease, you are screwed.

It is better to have many approaches to production. There is no perfect approach, that works at all times, everywhere. With different approaches, if one is found at fault, you still have many others that can go forward and use the information of the single failure.

It is not that Bush/Paulson/GS et al are bad people. It is that they are invested in the very system, such as it is, that produced this mess, which is really a collapse of a belief system. The Gods of Directives, CDO and leveraged to the thousands cut have been exposed as a delusion. The struggle now is about who gets the clean up bill. So far it has been the taxpayer.

10 posted on 11/09/2008 5:48:20 AM PST by Leisler (Obama is going to give us all Unicorns!)
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AIG’s executives were on Friday night locked in negotiations with the authorities over a plan that could involve a debt-for-equity swap and the government’s purchase of troubled mortgage-backed securities from the insurer.

Put those Dastards in jail and auction the companys assets.

11 posted on 11/09/2008 5:49:57 AM PST by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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The Gods of Directives, CDO and leveraged to the thousands cut have been exposed as a delusion.

Nailed it brother, nailed It!!!

12 posted on 11/09/2008 5:52:47 AM PST by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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To: exhaustguy
AIG of Mass Destruction.

Bush gets hustled again.

13 posted on 11/09/2008 6:03:07 AM PST by Leisler (Obama is going to give us all Unicorns!)
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To: org.whodat
We are bailing out a financial priest class. They said their special words, their special ceremonies would cause the Gods to be happy with us.

Now Debt God very very angry.

Debt God want blood sacrifices.( Naturally, it can not be the Priest/Shaman class. Who the heck is going to perform the rip out the beating heart ceremony? )

And so on.

14 posted on 11/09/2008 6:06:54 AM PST by Leisler (Obama is going to give us all Unicorns!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I’m thinkin’ that if AIG wants to re-negotiate it’s gonna have to improve its FICO number.


15 posted on 11/09/2008 6:11:15 AM PST by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.............maybe.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Now that the banking system has been stabilized, it’s time to let AIG go under.


16 posted on 11/09/2008 6:30:17 AM PST by devere
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AIG Back for Yet Another Bailout

Dude. Where's the party this time.

17 posted on 11/09/2008 6:37:02 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: TigerLikesRooster

they didn’t want maurice greenberg back at the company he built to help out.


18 posted on 11/09/2008 6:37:38 AM PST by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Is this part of the “spread the wealth” agenda?


19 posted on 11/09/2008 6:39:58 AM PST by Clock King (Radical Conservatives, arise!)
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Of course. Tax your enemy, and spread it around among your friends.:-)
20 posted on 11/09/2008 6:42:33 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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