Posted on 11/05/2008 10:26:37 PM PST by Oye Gente
Sorry for the vanity, but I am still a bit depressed over last nights results. I am an unlikely poster. I am 25 years old (ive always been an old soul), an immigrant from a communist country, and a "lifelong" republican. Bill Clinton made me a Republican, after seeing how he disgraced the office among other decisions I completely disagreed with at such a young age. I have voted straight GOP all of my voting life.
I still remember years ago sitting and watching a Governor from Texas announce with his wife from a lawn that he was forming an exploratory commitee, and I thought to myself, this man is going to bring honor and dignity to the White House, and he did.
Why did we lose so badly last night?, and why is our economy and this country in shambles after 8 years?, what did we do wrong, did we overreach? and how do we regroup?. Our values and our party have been mostly rejected here and around the world. I know that Republican values, small government, strong military, low taxes and personal responsibility are the way to go, I have experienced the fruits of these values personally as a successful business owner. But the question, how do we regroup and articulate this to the American people?
shite, it’s been this way for years
it doesn’t matter...too many lefties now
probably gonna be that way while
we have to recapture the white vote
Is the GOP standing up to the sludge being poured out by the McCain sour grapes gang on the only true conservative (and real Republican) in the entire campaign?
Right. Didn’t think so. Next...
A “conversation” about your feelings of betrayal. Okay. Fine. We’re all about feelings here.
I feel sick.
Next!
Is the GOP standing up to the sludge being poured out by the McCain sour grapes gang on the only true conservative (and real Republican) in the entire campaign? Right. Didn’t think so. Next... Scothia
What part of the concept of what an "inanimate object" is do you have a problem understanding?
What part of “sellout” do you have trouble understanding?
Is the GOP standing up to the sludge being poured out by the McCain sour grapes gang on the only true conservative (and real Republican) in the entire campaign? Right. Didn’t think so. Next... Scothia
What part of the concept of what an "inanimate object" is do you have a problem understanding? ....Polybius
What part of “sellout” do you have trouble understanding? .... Scothia
Ummmm ..... Hey, Rocket Scientist, "inanimate objects" can't be "sell outs". They are not alive.
Is the word ""inanimate" too long of a word for you?
A ventriloquist's wooden dummy cannot be a "sell out". A car cannot be a "sell out". A TV set cannot be a "sell out". Those "inanimate objects" are not alive. They cannot think or feel or form an opinion. You have to be alive to do that.
Only a ventriloquist, a car driver or a TV performer can be a "sell out".
If you do not like what a ventriloquist dummy is saying, it is rather idiotic to rant and rave about the dummy. It is nothing but a lifeless, wooden doll.
If you don't like what what a ventriloquist dummy is saying, you take control of the dummy, move his lips, say things with your own lips and then the dummy "says" exactly the same thing you are saying.
In American politics, "the GOP" and the "Democrats" are the two cars in a two car race. Everybody else in the race in triclycles or skateboards only pretend to be in the race. In order to win the race, you have to control one of those cars.
Now that you might be beginning to know the difference between a something that is alive and somethging that is "inanimate", maybe you can try to understand what I first wrote to you:
"If you don't like "the GOP", then don't whine that you are going to abandon the GOP car so that you can ride a third party tricycle and become political roadkill. If you don't like the way the "the GOP" car is being driven, then fight to get in the driver's seat."
This is pretty much on target. It doesn’t matter what the truth is—it matters what peoples’ perception of the truth is. Without an information path to the people, the conservatives and Republicans could walk on water and the people would not hear about it. A quick glance at the past 50 years of America’s political and economic history tells you that Republicans have been much more honorable and pro-America than Dem’s. Republicans have worked hard for economic success and even crushed our most formidable foe (USSR) in an economic and ideological victory. That is an incredible accomplishment and was possibly the greatest success of our nation’s history since the Revolution. However, it is never mentioned by the public information services whose members recall the Reagon years as anti-union and may secretly resent that he illuminated the evil and destroyed the romance they have with the socialist/communist idea.
Over the years I have spoken to immigrants from former USSR countries and Austria. The are most troubled by the ignorant dalliance with Marxism. They have seen the misery of socialism. If you want to see what a cult of personality does to a nation, look to the Philippines and the election of movie stars to lead. Look at how vote pandering by gov’t removed the sanctity of private property, flooded Manila with squatters, and lowered the quality of life for all. Travel to Istanbul and see how gov’t “free” health care results in doctors seeing hundreds of patients each day and how private elite hospitals split the health care system. These situations can be seen around the world. They are incremental steps from where the US currently resides.
We must do two things:
1. Conservative, freedom-loving Americans must build an information service to get the truth to people here and abroad.
2. Conservatives must establish education that provides more accurate education for young (and old) to counter the left biased education now forced on children.
I volunteer for both tasks. How about others here?
You state that, “...Our values and our party have been mostly rejected here and around the world.” Actually, the “stereotyped and distorted cartoon of our values and party as portrayed in the foreign (socialist European especially)” media have been rejected. The lies about us were designed for rejection. The truth about us is largely unknown both in and outside the US. Real people, on the other hand, look to the US for opportunity and come here to achieve. The world, and nearly all Americans including the hard left, love and depend on our value system. Otherwise, they would not be able to speak and act as they do. Those who reject those values are nearly always liars or fools.
The world hates us because the world has been taught to hate us and has been shielded from the truth. I understand the world hates us because of the war. However, the world shared with us the intelligence information that encouraged the war. The Dem party acts as though its members were anti-war but actually they supported it—only a grand effort to hide the truth enables this fact to be unfamiliar with the world and forgotten by many in the US.
The new administration could round up citizens and gas them but the world and US media will largely make them out to be wonderful. Count on it.
I’m so glad I have you to explain things. After all, I’m just a dumb girl.
Whether you are a "dumb girl" or a man pretending to be obtuse, the fact remains that your replies were non sequiturs.
Then why are you replying?
I pointed out to you that inanimate objects are incapable of "selling out".
You either understand the concept or you don't.
Run along now and go argue with your car about taking that wrong turn last week.
Lets get off the self-pity crap and start figuring out how to pay these bastards back for the last 8 years!
Plus - we are going to be prepared to send millions of us to rallies in DC if this stuff starts really getting bad like take our guns and free speech.
Yes, of course--the Republican Party is made up of inanimate objects which by nature cannot sell out. Well, that explains a lot.
Gee, I get so much smarter every time you post.
Yes, of course--the Republican Party is made up of inanimate objects which by nature cannot sell out. Well, that explains a lot. Gee, I get so much smarter every time you post.
Sigh....
No, you keep getting things exactly backwards.
EXAMPLES OF INANIMATE OBJECTS OR CONCEPTS:
1) An automobile
2) A ventriloquist dummy
3) A brand name (Coca-Cola, Pepsi)
4) A club charter or party charter (The Acme Club, the Green Party)
EXAMPLES OF BEINGS THAT CAN RATIONALLY THINK:
1) An automobile driver
2) A ventriloquist
3) The CEO of Coca-Cola and the CEO of Pepsi
4) The MEMBERS of the Acme Club and the Green Party
The way things are in American politics, the overwhelming majority of voters vote "brand names". It is either "Democrat" or "Republican".
If you put a chimpanzee with a (D) after its name and a dog with an (R) after its name in a long ballot running for "District 2 Commissioner", each one will automatically get over 30% of the vote and will probably get more votes than the human being with any other "brand X" party label after his name.
You can put dog piss mixed with sugar, caramel food coloring and CO2 gas in a Coca-Cola or Pepsi bottle and millions of people will buy it.
That is the power of a "brand name".
The way you win Presidential elections is:
1) Convince enough voters to think like you do.
2) Get them all under the same well know "brand name" party label
3) Get more combined votes than the other "brand name" party label
The way you lose elections is:
1) Convince enough voters to think like you do.
2) Get them all under the same "brand X" party label
3) Lose to the chimpanzee with a (D) after its name or the dog with an (R) after its name
As I wrote before:
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Political parties are not living beings. They are inanimate organizations just like rental cars are inanimate objects. Like rental cars, the way they behave depends on who is in the driver's seat and that can change in one day. ... If you don't like "the GOP", then don't whine that you are going to abandon the GOP car so that you can ride a third party tricycle and become political roadkill. If you don't like the way the "the GOP" car is being driven, then fight to get in the driver's seat.
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Some people were just born without the sarcasm gene, I guess.
Oh, you were being sarcastic. You had me going there for a while thinking that you actually intended to make your political voice as totally irrelevant as Cynthia McKinney's.
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