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Should Bill Ayers (Obama confident) be tried for his crimes as a fugitive...
Various -- FBI, various books/works/sources | August 24, 2008 | vanity

Posted on 08/24/2008 5:09:39 AM PDT by topher

From the FBI file on the Weather Underground Foreign Influence documents (see FBI document (420 pages) on Weatherman Underground -- http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/weather.htm).

On this webpage, the FBI states that the Weatherman (or Weather Undergound) was an organization [that] described itself as a revolutionary organization of communist men and women.

In point of fact, the Weather Underground (WUO) was a terrorist organization very sympathic to North Vietnam and Cuba during the Vietnam War.

The Weathermen were responsible for a number of bombings in the United States, and Bill Ayers was one of the key leaders of this organization.

His own girlfriend died in one of the bombings -- though it was a case of the bomb exploded in a weatherman hideout probably as it was being prepared. This particular bombing was meant to kill members of the US Military at an NCO Dance club, but instead killed members of the Weather Underground.

The FBI Documents (PDF files) mention the foreign influence on the Weatherman Organization.

Additionally, Bill Ayers was a fugitive in the 1970s such that he had his original name plus the following aliases -- according to FBI documents:

WILLIAM CHARLES AYERS, aka
Michael Joseph Raffery, Jr.
Jules Michael Taylor.
Hank Anderson

I believe it is clear that Bill Ayers could have been charged with treason, and since he helped formed the Weather Underground, he may have a responsibility in a number of bombings.

He also did recruiting for the Vanceremos Brigade, a group to help Communist Cuba.

It is unclear the number of possible charges that this person might be charged with that the statue of limitations may not have run out on.

He is an important aspect of the political life of Barrack Obama, as Obama started his political life from the home of Bill Ayers.

Another source of information on Bill Ayers is the Wikipedia link:

Bill Ayers WikiPedia link -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers

I am curious how many possible crimes [that the statue of limitations have run out] and the number of possible crimes [that the statue of limitations have not run out] that this important person in the Obama Campaign could be charged with?



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There are also books that shed on a light on this as well:

Author: Jacobs, Ron, The way the wind blew: a history of the Weather Underground, London & New York: Verso, 1997. ISBN 1-85984-167-8

Title: Fugitive Days: A Memoir, Author: Bill Ayers, Beacon Press, 2001, ISBN 0807071242 (Penguin, 2003, ISBN 978-0142002551)

Note that the book by Bill Ayers supposedly contains a number of factual errors.

It is possible that the FBI has phone recordins and other materials that might implicate Bill Ayers in a number of crimes -- especially as a Domestic Terrorist.

1 posted on 08/24/2008 5:09:40 AM PDT by topher
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To: topher
Guilt by association, right out out of the books of the communist party.

Someone here is just a little off.

2 posted on 08/24/2008 5:13:06 AM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: All; topher
From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
"FBI files from 1976, recently made public under the Freedom of Information Act, confirm the connections between Weatherman, Havana, and Moscow. Weatherman leaders like Mark Rudd traveled illegally to Havana in 1968 to engage in terrorist training. There, camps set up by Soviet KGB Colonel Vadim Kotchergine were educating Westerners both in Marxist philosophy and urban warfare."

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"Their founding document [the Weather Underground's] called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[1] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."..."-Berger, Dan (2006). Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity. AK Press, pg 95.

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For much more on the ObamaRats and the strong communist angle in all this, i.e. the one being largely ignored by both the left AND most of the right-wing media, particularly the more popular personalities like Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingram, Bill O'Reilly, etc, please check out my FR Home page. Everything there is well documented and linked directly to its source. Thanks.

http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl

3 posted on 08/24/2008 5:13:59 AM PDT by ETL (Lots of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the ObamaRats at my Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl)
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To: topher

If obama wins he will probably make Ayers a cabinet member like the secretary of the tresury.


4 posted on 08/24/2008 5:14:55 AM PDT by kindred ( Third party conservative for Chuck Balwin,McCain is a liberal,Obama a communist.)
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To: org.whodat
Guilt by association, right out of the books of the communist party. Someone here is just a little off.

It's not clear what you are saying here. Could you rephrase.

5 posted on 08/24/2008 5:18:16 AM PDT by ETL (Lots of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the ObamaRats at my Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl)
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To: ETL
Doesn't matter if they (or anyone else) was "a little off", your excellent post #3 sets the record straight on those Communist scumbag traitors that SHOULD be swinging from a hangman's noose.
6 posted on 08/24/2008 5:24:21 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history. (Obama is his 2nd term))
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To: ETL
Thanks for putting a lot of this info in one place. I haven't read it yet, but intend to.

Did you see this one on Davis?
Obama mentor Frank Marshall Davis wrote shocking, autobiographical pornography
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2066754/posts

It may not be as important as your other stuff, but it shows what type of man, Obama admires.

7 posted on 08/24/2008 5:26:01 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: topher
Some more links:

Freerepublic article on New York Times column:

[Freerepublic] No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives (Obama friend, William Ayers - 9-11-2001) -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2066829/posts

New York Times link to original article:

No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives -- http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63

Another article [Freerepublic] is:

About the Weather Underground-related police killing mentioned in the new anti-Obama video -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2066765/posts

FBI Document on the Weatherman:

Freerepublic article:

Weather Underground Organization [linked to N. Vietnamese and Cuban gov'mts, KGB] -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2066765/posts

FBI Web page with original document (6 PDF files):

FBI document on Weather Undergound (WUO) [aka the Weathermen] -- http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/weather.htm

8 posted on 08/24/2008 5:26:56 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: kindred
Why not Secretary of State so that he can more directly help communist/subversive countries???
9 posted on 08/24/2008 5:28:19 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: ETL
I am all for pushing for immediate prosecution of Bill Ayers under any possible crimes that the statue of limitations have not run out on...

I think that during the Democratic Convention, this might show the true colors of Bill Ayers, Barrack Obama, and the current leadership of the Democratic Party...

What is wrong with pressing Congress for Department of Justice prosectution for a known terrorist?

10 posted on 08/24/2008 5:31:24 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: ETL
OK, I believe in the constitution, do you???
11 posted on 08/24/2008 5:40:14 AM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: ETL
For much more on the ObamaRats and the strong communist angle in all this, i.e. the one being largely ignored by both the left AND most of the right-wing media, particularly the more popular personalities like Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingram, Bill O'Reilly, etc, please check out my FR Home page.

I can barely stand to listen to Rush or Sean Hannity. I usually feel like kicking my computer or slamming the car radio.

Rush irritates me the most! He knows that Barach Obama is deeply associated with communists. He knows that the left is thoroughly infiltrated with communists. He knows that communists are thoroughly entrenched throughout our major civic institutions. He knows that communists are rooted deep into our colleges and universities, teacher unions and other unions, K-12 schools, all the arts, all left leaning political activist groups, government social agencies, and even in our Senate and legislatures.

Rush Limbaugh is a big fat weenie!!!! He is afraid that if he starts calling these people what they really are, they will turn around and accuse him of calling names.

I am exasperated!!! Rush, Sean, Bill, and Laura are smart people. They know what is going on here but they are too cowardly to call these people by name: COMMUNIST!

12 posted on 08/24/2008 5:41:13 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: ETL

By the way....Great page


13 posted on 08/24/2008 5:41:57 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: ETL
For much more on the ObamaRats and the strong communist angle in all this, i.e. the one being largely ignored by both the left AND most of the right-wing media, particularly the more popular personalities like Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingram, Bill O'Reilly, etc,

Sean Hannity???

For the last year's listening, I CANNOT recall any time that Sean Hannity has NOT mentioned Bill Ayres' connection with HUSSEIN obama, and you most not be listening to Rush either!!!

14 posted on 08/24/2008 5:58:23 AM PDT by danamco
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To: topher

Interesting post!


15 posted on 08/24/2008 6:22:50 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: danamco
For the last year's listening, I CANNOT recall any time that Sean Hannity has NOT mentioned Bill Ayres' connection with HUSSEIN obama, and you most not be listening to Rush either!!!

You don't read very well, do you? I said they are not making the COMMUNIST CONNECTIONS. Not a one of them EVER get into the strong commie angle in all this. Hannity still, despite all the information available to him, only refers to Bill Ayers and the Weather Underground as "domestic terrorists" and Reverend Wright and Black Liberation Theology as "racist". BLT is a form of violent revolutionary Marxism. Limbaugh, as well, never gets into any detail on the communist groups. And you can forget about Bill O'Reilly and most of the others. O'Reilly knows squat about the communist left, although he 'unknowingly', once or twice, had on his program a leading rep for the Revolutionary Communist Party (Sunsara Taylor). Taylor was on representing the World Can't Wait--Drive Out the Bush Regime organization, a known front for the RCP. Taylor writes regularly for the RCP newspaper, Revolution, and once actually appeared on Hannity and Colmes wearing a Revolutionary Communist Party Youth Brigade t-shirt! Hannity, without a clue in the world, merely asked her "what's that you're wearing" and left it at that. Taylor didn't really give an answer.

Laura Ingram interviewed Taylor once while subbing for O'Reilly and clearly had no idea who she was and/or what she was about (didn't anyone behind the scenes at FoxNews know following her appearance on H&C??). In fact, Ingram once interviewed on her radio show right around the time of the 2004 Republican convention in New York City when massive street protests were taking place, Leslie Cagan. Cagan is the national coordinator for the largest "anti-war" group in the country, United for Peace and Justice. Ingram clearly had no clue, but certainly should have, especially given the fact that the protest Cagan led drew something like 300-400,000 people. She didn't even get the name of the org correct. She called it "United for Justice and Peace". She didn't ask Cagan a thing about her longtime support for communist causes or her open admiration for Fidel Castro.

Cagan, besides being the national coordinator for UFPJ, is also the founder and chair (or at least former chair) of an org called Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism. The CCDS is an old offshoot of Communist Party USA. The current co-chair of UFPJ is a woman named Judith LeBlanc. LeBlanc is vice-chair of Communist Party USA.

16 posted on 08/24/2008 6:35:51 AM PDT by ETL (Lots of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the ObamaRats at my Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl)
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To: org.whodat
John Kerry was also a member...

RNC Forecast: Severe ‘Weather’ Watch
By Thomas Ryan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, August 30, 2004

In 1971, the year that John Kerry spoke before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee lending remote support to the Communists in Vietnam, another anti-war, anti-American assemblage sought to spread its Communist message by detonating a bomb in the U.S. Capitol Building. The Weather Underground, a 1970’s-era violent Communist entity, in total, was responsible for the bombings of the National Guard offices in Washington, D.C., the U.S. Capitol Building, the New York City Police Headquarters, and the Pentagon. Three decades have past since the group’s insidious bombing spree; however, the Weather Underground’s hatred of America has remained, and members of the outfit have set their sights on this week’s Republican National Convention.

In an August 23, 2004 New York Post article, Stefan C. Friedman reported that extremists affiliated with the Weather Underground, who have recently been released from prison, are planning to “wreak havoc” at the 2004 GOP Convention in New York. Friedman’s source for the information, an individual with inside knowledge of the security measures being taken at the convention, went on record as saying, “These people [the Weather Underground] are trained in kidnapping techniques, bombmaking and building improvised munitions… They're very bad people.” Although Friedman’s source withheld the names of the Weather Underground’s associates that officials are tracking, the fanatics that have served as Weather Underground members and leaders over the years have indeed included some “very bad people.”

The Weather Underground started as a splinter faction of Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), which is recognized as being the first group to hold an antiwar rally in Washington, D.C. in protest of the War in Vietnam. Initial members of the Weather Underground differed from SDS in their perceived means of transforming the U.S. into a Communist country, and in 1969, the group split from SDS, steered by aspirations of a more violent rebellion against the principals of America. That same year, members of the Weather Underground traveled to Havana, Cuba. During this time in Havana, makeshift camps erected by Soviet KGB Colonel Vadim Kotchergine were instructing Western radicals in the Philosophy of Karl Marx and the techniques of guerilla warfare, including bomb-making. The group’s purpose for the trip to Havana was to strategize for their looming assault on America; their newly realized objective was to destroy the U.S., both physically and psychologically, by carrying out terrorist acts aimed at key landmarks – the same as the 9/11 terrorists did over thirty years later. With this as their goal, the group conducted their infamous bombing raids, targeting familiar symbols of American freedom and Democracy.

Most surviving members of the group are still active in anti-American circles. Although many have spent time in jail, they are unrepentant about their violent actions.

Of her involvement in the terrorist actions of the Weather Underground, member Laura Whitehorn has said, “I'm unrepentant. I'm proud of my motives.” Whitehorn currently serves as a visiting college lecturer, espousing her anti-American rhetoric to suggestible students at university campuses across the country, including Cornell, Brown, and Vassar Universities. Whitehorn has said. “I don't really even care that much whether people think I'm a terrorist or not. These labels have everything to do with your own politics and not much with what the people do.” While not viewing her own activities as such, Whitehorn contrarily calls the actions of the U.S. “terrorism,” including the Vietnam War and the current War in Iraq.

In 1981, Whitehorn’s other group, the May 19th Communist Organization, viciously killed two police officers and a security guard in an armored truck robbery in New York; their goal was to secure additional funds for their own terrorist bombing campaign. From 1983 to 1985, the group bombed the National War College, the Washington Navy Yard Computing Center, the Israeli Aircraft Industries Building, New York City's South African Consulate, the Washington Navy Yard Officers’ Club, New York City's Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association, and the United Stated Capitol Building. Whitehorn was arrested and convicted in the 1983 U.S. Capitol bombing. She served fourteen years in Federal prison.

Indicating her inclination for terrorism, and her subsequent abhorrence of U.S. Capitalism, Weather Underground leader Bernardine Dohrn has said, “Terrorism and crime are not the main problems of today. Leveling the playing field economically should be our main concern.” Dohrn is currently the director of the Legal Clinic's Children and Family Justice Center, and Clinical Associate Professor of Law at Northwestern University.

Dohrn has audaciously said to students, “During your student years here, the cruelly brutal, criminal attacks of September 11, 2001, the shredded economy and loss of jobs, the consequences of deregulation and devolution that bankrupted state and local governments, the relentless punishment and imprisoning of over two million people in America, flagrant corporate plunder and criminality, rolling blackouts, the apparently permanent war on terrorism, the shock and awe occupation of Iraq, systematic and degrading detention without trial, torture and extra-judicial assassinations, and the establishment of a crescent of new U.S. military bases across the Middle East and South Asia – all have transformed whatever blissful illusions were harbored as you entered college.”

Dohrn also sits on the advisory board of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), which pervasively masks its Communist intentions behind its incessant calls for “civil liberties.” ACLU co-founder, Roger Baldwin, once stated, “Communism is the goal… I don’t regret being part of the Communist tactic. I knew what I was doing. I was not an innocent Liberal.” Aside from the ACLU being steered by domestic terrorists, its recent goals have been to ardently lobby against Homeland Security measures, such as the Patriot Act, which seek to impede the influx of foreign terrorists into the United States. The lax positions on terrorism of Communist groups like the ACLU serve to demonstrate their own intentions of defeating Capitalism, by making the U.S unequivocally vulnerable to foreign threats.

Dohrn’s husband, Bill Ayers, also served as a leader of the Weather Underground. Ayers, who has summed up the philosophy of the group as, “Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, Kill your parents...,” is now alarmingly employed as a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago, and has written a number of books about parenthood, such as: A Kind and Just Parent; To Become a Teacher; City Kids, City Teachers; To Teach; and The Good Preschool Teacher.

Ayers has also written a new book that deals specifically with his life as a Weather Underground leader. In the book, which is entitled Fugitive Days, Ayers gleefully recounts his bombing spree in the early 1970’s. He states, “There’s something about a good bomb… Night after night, day after day, each majestic scene I witnessed was so terrible and so unexpected that no city would ever again stand innocently fixed in my mind. Big buildings and wide streets, cement and steel were no longer permanent. They, too, were fragile and destructible. A torch, a bomb, a strong enough wind, and they, too, would come undone or get knocked down.”

In 1970, Ayers’ then-girlfriend, Diana Oughton, and two other members were killed while making a bomb that they intended to use at an army dance at Fort Dix, New Jersey. If they had been successful in their murderous attempt, thousands of soldiers and their dates would have died in the bombing. Ayers admitted that the bomb would have done serious damage, “tearing through windows and walls and, yes, people too.”

Both Ayers and Dohrn spent the 70’s fleeing from Federal prosecution. In 1980, the two surrendered to authorities, and were later released due to “improper surveillance.” Ayers has remarked, “I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough.” In his book, Fugitive Days, when pondering the prospect of ever using explosives and bombs again, Ayers states, “I can’t imagine entirely dismissing the possibility.” Demonstrating what particularly angers him, Ayers, in a New York Times article inadvertently published on September 9, 2001, stated, “Oh, I'm troubled, troubled. We're living in a country where the election [of 2000] was stolen, and we didn't have a mass uprising. It's incredible. We're all asleep.” With the coming elections it remains to be seen what shape Ayers’ complicity may have in any “mass uprising.”

Regardless of how the Weather Underground’s detestation of the U.S manifests itself at next week’s Republican convention, the group will not be alone. Other organizations are planning their own radical, aggressive protests against the Bush Administration and America in general. A31, an assemblage of various anarchist and anti-war groups, including Code Pink for Peace and the War Resisters League, is expecting thousands of participants in its civil unrest, scheduled for August 31. The group boasts, “We will turn the streets of NYC into stages of resistance… A wave of actions will occur around the buildings of war profiteers, Republican donors and the corporations that have hijacked our air, water, land, pensions and voice.” Another group planning to hit the GOP convention en masse is United for Peace and Justice (UFPJ). UFPJ is co-chaired by Leslie Cagan, who is personally responsible for organizing millions of protestors from such organizations as the Communist Party USA, the Workers World Party, and the Socialist Workers Party in their own protests of America over the years. UFPJ’s rally cry for dissent at this year’s convention ominously reads, “Together, we will send a message so powerful it cannot be ignored…”

In 1971, while John Kerry, speaking before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, stated, “we cannot fight Communism all over the world… There is no threat. The Communists are not about to take over our McDonald hamburger stands,” members of the Weather Underground were planning to bomb American buildings in the name of their Communist cause. Three decades later, and the Weather Underground is still threatening the U.S., and the Communist-apologist, John Kerry, is curiously running for President. As demonstrated through their bombings of the National Guard offices in Washington, D.C., the U.S. Capitol Building, the New York City Police Headquarters, and the Pentagon, and the continued virulence of its members, the Weather Underground has shown that the group’s conspicuous hatred of America doesn’t subside with time.

17 posted on 08/24/2008 6:41:05 AM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: topher
and who brags at the end of Fugitive Days that he is "Guilty as hell, free as a bird—it’s a great country." W.Ayers

and there it is...

18 posted on 08/24/2008 6:49:22 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - CTHULHU/NYARLATHOTEP'08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: org.whodat

Known by the company he keeps.


19 posted on 08/24/2008 6:58:25 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: wintertime
By the way....Great page

Thanks. My goal is to make the verifiable democrat-commie connections known to as many good folks as possible, especially since none of the popular conservative talk show hosts are doing a very good job of it.

20 posted on 08/24/2008 7:12:31 AM PDT by ETL (Lots of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the ObamaRats at my Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl)
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