Mr. Bell & Mr. Bohm were right.
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Okaaaaay....I so do not get the distinction.
“Our experiment just puts the finger where it hurts,” he says.
Where it hurts? Snort. Namely my brain, from trying to figger this out.
Bump for later read....C
This is news? The Demicans and Republicrats have been demonstrating ‘entanglement’ like this for decades.
I don’t know why they are surprised at this. There has been experiment after experiment showing this. I know many scientists have been in denial and have claimed for some time that entanglement would not allow faster than light information travel but it does. There has also been some very good experiments using entangled photons in remote scanning where two beams of photons are used. The one beam of entangled photons are used to scan a target while the other is directed to a sensor and from the resultant information of the second beam only there has been some success generating an image.
I wouldn’t be surprised if a crude quantum semaphore system couldn’t be devised to show clearly that information can be transmitted faster than the speed of light.
ker ping!
There was no FTL information transfer. The wavefunction instantaneouly collapsed into an observable, by the book, sourcing consistent data. Information existed only after opposite ends compared datasets - and that transmission happens no faster than lightspeed. Viewing one dataset allows no conclusions to be drawn. It won't even do FTL Morse code. The universe is causal.
There are a few other examples in quantum physics of instantaneous effects, but to call it “information” is misleading. It can never be used for communication purposes, for instance, because the “information” is really only partial. Altering an entangled particle will effect the other one similarly, but also randomly. In order to compare the two, you still need to communicate the information at light speed (or less).
100,000 times faster than the speed of light? Wow... Only thing faster is the speed at which a LibTard mind slams shut in the face of logic.
A few considerations:
The 500 pound gorilla that still must be beat is “causality”. This boils down to cause and effect, with the idea that it is impossible to see the result before the cause of that result has happened.
This means that even if communication happens faster than light, you still can’t get the message before it has been sent.
The big question will be to see what happens when matched pairs are separated by more than 186,000 miles. The pair might communicate faster than light, but the information itself might not be part of that communication until a second has passed. And at twice that distance, two seconds, etc.
This would mean that not only is causality preserved, but the universal speed limit.
Ansible
Or is it??
Next thing you know big foot is going to pop right out of that lab in Switzerland.
At any rate; if they build a mother board with faster than light photons the next version of Windows will slow it down to molasses in January.
Thanks BBell.
Spooky Physics: Signals Seem to Travel Faster Than Light
LiveScience | Aug 13, 2008 | Charles Q. Choi
Posted on 08/13/2008 12:11:36 PM PDT by decimon
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2061306/posts
Another variant on this experiment? Afterward the lead scientist gets to give a little interview to some newsman and explain how its really puzzling and on one has a clue what’s going on.
Yippee!!!
A couple of years ago I got into a debate with another FReeper over this idea. I thought the concept had been basically (but not extensively) verified when CERN did an experiment like this around 2000.
