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The Guardian ^ | Wednesday July 9, 2008 | Joe Queenan

Posted on 07/19/2008 6:07:08 AM PDT by Borges

After 40 years and 1,500 concerts, Joe Queenan is finally ready to say the unsayable: new classical music is absolute torture - and its fans have no reason to be so smug.

During a radio interview between acts at the Metropolitan Opera in New York, a famous singer recently said she could not understand why audiences were so reluctant to listen to new music, given that they were more than ready to attend sporting events whose outcome was uncertain. It was a daft analogy. Having spent most of the last century writing music few people were expected to understand, much less enjoy, the high priests of music were now portrayed as innocent victims of the public's lack of imagination. If they don't know in advance whether Nadal or Federer is going to win, but still love Wimbledon, why don't they enjoy it when an enraged percussionist plays a series of brutal, fragmented chords on his electric marimba? What's wrong with them?

The reason the sports analogy fails is because when Spain plays Germany, everyone knows that the game will be played with one ball, not eight; and that the final score will be 1-0 or 3-2 or even 8-1 - but definitely not 1,600,758 to Arf-Arf the Chalet Ate My Banana. The public may not know in advance what the score will be, but it at least understands the rules of the game. There is no denying that the people filling the great concert halls of the world are conservative, and in many cases reactionary: reluctant to take a flyer on music that wasn't recorded at least once by Toscanini. They know what they like and what they like is Mozart.

(Excerpt) Read more at music.guardian.co.uk ...


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To: gonzo
See #13......hey, Gonz, I didn't know you had a famous Rock group!

Leni

21 posted on 07/19/2008 7:57:17 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Stay Home or vote Barr for Obamination, more Taxation, Regulation, Litigation and Ginzburgization)
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To: gonzo
Ooops, make that "see #16".

(....using million-man march numbers this morning, hah.)

Leni

22 posted on 07/19/2008 7:59:41 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Stay Home or vote Barr for Obamination, more Taxation, Regulation, Litigation and Ginzburgization)
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To: MinuteGal

Atonal music isn’t that new anymore. Schoenberg wrote his first atonal piece in 1908. And Chopin was one of the pioneers of proto-atonal music!


23 posted on 07/19/2008 8:28:52 AM PDT by Borges
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To: RipSawyer; Das Outsider

[... Alas, it seems to be the special olympics of
life in general. We have the most pathetic candidates
imaginable running for president, movies so awful that
I hardly ever want to watch one anymore, even young
people seem to listen to the pop music from forty or
fifty years ago rather than what is current. So-called
journalists appear to be at best only vaguely acquainted
with the English language. Television programs represented
as “Science” reporting spread disinformation about
climate change. The medical profession moves the goalposts
on cholesterol, blood pressure and blood sugar in an
apparent move to ensure that every American is prescribed
chronic medication at the earliest possible age and kept
on medication for life...]

You have just written America’s epitaph.


24 posted on 07/19/2008 8:51:58 AM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Reaganesque

Hans Zimmer is good too.


25 posted on 07/19/2008 8:55:41 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: Borges
"Chopin was one of the pioneers of proto-atonal music!"

Agreed, but he had the talent to know how to do it and still sell records!

Leni

26 posted on 07/19/2008 8:56:24 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Stay Home or vote Barr for Obamination, more Taxation, Regulation, Litigation and Ginzburgization)
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To: Borges

There’s a classical music ping list? Can you please add me to it?

There is no denying that the people filling the great concert halls of the world are conservative.... They know what they like and what they like is Mozart.
***In one sentence, that describes my preferences reasonably well.


27 posted on 07/19/2008 8:59:07 AM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Borges

Art creates its own audience. If it doesn’t, then it isn’t.


28 posted on 07/19/2008 9:03:43 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: RightWhale

“Art creates its own audience. If it doesn’t, then it isn’t.”

Perfect.


29 posted on 07/19/2008 10:06:40 AM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: Borges

This is one of the best critiques on modern music ever written. It agrees with my feelings completely.

The comments concerning the beauty of movie themes is absolutely dead on. Many of them are simply wonderful....because they are trying to attract people, not prove that they are hip and avant garde.


30 posted on 07/19/2008 10:15:41 AM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: Borges
Bravo, Joe, bravo!

I haven't read such an entertaining, spot-on skewering in quite some time.

31 posted on 07/19/2008 11:24:16 AM PDT by mojito
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To: Reaganesque

I think he was supposed to be a caricature of John Bonham.


32 posted on 07/19/2008 12:28:27 PM PDT by lesser_satan (Cthulu '08! Why vote for the lesser evil?)
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To: Borges

Simply stated humans are hard-wired to appreciate tonal music. Atonal music as a rule is total gibberish...except of course for sound effects as in movies like “Jaws” as Queenan noted.


33 posted on 07/19/2008 1:17:00 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: Borges

Simple: If you don’t get it, don’t listen to it.

Leave the listening to the ears who do get it, and smother your ears in saccharine Mozart crap.


34 posted on 07/19/2008 1:25:22 PM PDT by aristotleman (....in wolves' clothing....stealing ur prey.....)
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To: driftless2

***Simply stated humans are hard-wired to appreciate tonal music.***

Absolutely, and the discordancies of what was described to us as “experimental” music some years ago are now foisted off to us by PBS as “classical music.”


35 posted on 07/19/2008 2:12:51 PM PDT by kitkat (EX DEO LIBERTAS (From God, liberty))
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To: Borges

This guy is from Great Britain and Karl Jenkins is tremendously popular there. And as others have said, there is a lot of classical music which has been written for the movies that has become very popular.


36 posted on 07/19/2008 2:17:37 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: aristotleman

Come on you can defend modern music without calling Mozart crap. He was the most radical composer of his time.


37 posted on 07/19/2008 3:59:15 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Kevmo; sitetest
There’s a classical music ping list? Can you please add me to it?

Will do.
38 posted on 07/19/2008 4:00:22 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

Thanks. Cheers.


39 posted on 07/19/2008 6:33:49 PM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

You’ve been added to the list!

Thanks!


40 posted on 07/19/2008 6:34:45 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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