Posted on 07/14/2008 3:26:56 AM PDT by cdchik123
In a blockbuster New York news conference Monday, July 14th, Andy Martin asks: "Why has Barack Obama been lying for decades about the 'marriage' of his parents when he knew full well he was lying? There was no marriage. How can anyone vote for Obama for president when Obama is so cowardly he can't tell the truth to the American people?" Andy Martin's book and writing begin to impact the presidential campaign.
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Legendary Chicago Internet columnist and Obama author Andy Martin will hold a New York news conference Monday, July 14th to drop the first of several bombs on the Obama campaign: Obama is illegitimate and his parents were never married.
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By your logic, it says something about George W. Bush's judgment and view of reality that he kept personal things private, except Dubya's was much worse because he's the one who did the crime he was trying to cover up (whereas Obama was merely born into an out of wedlock situation). It is okay to keep private certain things. I'm surprised your parents never taught you that.
Which makes his fabrication about it more puzzling. At this point, why hide it? And why did he feel it necessary to continue the fabrication for his book? The natural reaction is to ask, "What else is he hiding?"
Because it is very embarrassing and he had no direct involvement in it. Obama shouldn't be beaten up because his mother couldn't keep her legs shut.
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That's what my neighbor Gladys Kravitz said to me, too...
I am not going to judge Obama's values based on his mother's inability to keep her legs shut. There are a lot of very moral people who come from immoral homes. If Obama was talking about the importance of legitimacy and was getting women pregnant out of wedlock, that would be one thing. Do you have any evidence that Obama is a bad husband or bad father? Those things reflect on him. You can judge him on his own actions and decide whether he's a hypocrite. Whether Obama was born legitimate or not isn't all that important since he admits publicly that his Dad was a deadbeat. All it does do is shield his dead mother's name and keeps people from judging him negatively for something he didn't have any direct involvement in. I don't see the problem with that.
Obama opened himself up in this area by lying in campaign commericals and elsewhere that he was raised in a “typical all American Kansas family”, blah, blah, blah. If he had kept his mouth shut, then he would have been blameless and not had dupes like you trying to defend him over this.
Much worse? Maybe he didn't want to air his dirty laundry. Your logic leaves a lot to be desired. The point is that when you are running for President of the United States, you must know that you are going to come under intense scrutiny. Your statements and past actions will be reviewed under a microscope, if not by the MSM, by the operations research folks of the other side. You can bet that Obama's admitted drug use [including cocaine] will also be examined. It is not about comparing Bush's DUI with Obama's out of wedlock birth, but rather, their judgment in not revealing it or lying about it.
Leave my parents [deceased] out of it. We are discussing Obama, not my personal upbringing.
Because it is very embarrassing and he had no direct involvement in it. Obama shouldn't be beaten up because his mother couldn't keep her legs shut.
You're rather crude description is what is embarrassing. Obama, the adult, is the focus of my attention, not his mother. I am not about to sit in moral judgment of her. She is not the issue. Obama and his judgment are what concerns me. His lying, just like he did about Rev Wright, strikes at the heart of his credibility. Character does count.
The point is, he LIED to the American people.
I disagree that “everything about Obama is our business”
Where do you draw the line? Just what are you entitled to know?
Do you have some kind of right to know how many times a week he has sex, if he is constipated, if he has a small penis???
HIs birth and whether or not he is illegitimate are not your business.
His subsequent “making up” of a Kansas upbringing is.
This is a loser, this avid interest in calling Obama a “bastard”, in insulting his dead Mother.
And as to his registration in school at age 7, surely it has occurred to you that Obama did not register himself, his stepfather did.
Obama has an embarassing history but you embarass yourself with your declaration that we have a right to know “everything” about another person running for president. You have no such right.
Money quote:
“His mother was promiscuous and had a child out of wedlock, in 1961, when that was still scandalous behavior...”
98% of most reasonable people would understand that he had no control what his father did above. THEY DO KNOW OBAMA CAN CONTROL LYING ABOUT IT.
Meaning what?
where have you heard Obama address the issue of his stepfather enrolling him in school as a Muslim?
I agree and disagree. Nothing seems to stick to the teflon candidate. Dick Morris will say that the illegitimate birth is no big thing, but I think that this is the start of something. NOw everything is open season.
Also, I think Martin needed to sensationalize this a bit to get the coverage that he needs. Otherwise, going low key would have made it not seem a big deal.
In the end, Obama will play the victim card...and of course his following will be even more fervently for him,
But this will start the other questions regarding where he was born, what hospital, what country, the birth certificate etc. etc.
Does not promiscuous imply multiple partners and indiscriminate sex?
Where is that established? It is neither true nor untrue. You don’t know that his dead mother had multiple indiscriminate partners.
Babies out of wedlock were a scandal in 1961 but were not proof of promiscuity at all.
This ‘thing’ is running for the PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES, not applying for a job at Burger King.
We have a righ to know ALL about him, not just what he and his handlers decide to tell us.
He has LIED to the American people about his birth, his father and his mother. What else has he lied about?
Where is your right to know everything about a candidate other than in your own mind?
There is no such right.
I think you have the serious post of the day. Not kidding.
My point was that it is no longer scandalous; we’re still looking for the young boy or the dead girl...
His own web site lies about this.
Barack is a committed Christian who was sworn into the Senate on his family bible, but unscrupulous right-wing operatives are repeating the lie that he was raised a Muslim. These assertions are completely false and designed to play into the worst kind of stereotypes.
Other times also he has said he was NEVER raised a Muslim.
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