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Clint Eastwood's 'Unforgiven' - what do you think?
June 16, 2008 | Apollo 13

Posted on 06/16/2008 7:31:04 AM PDT by Apollo 13

Hi everyone - being a relative newbie, I could yet not resist this one: yesterday I saw 'Unforgiven' by Clint Eastwood for the first time. To start: I found it a stunningly good movie. It's been labelled as 'the very last western', or if you will, a revisionist version of trad western fare. I'd agree with both comments; but at the same time it's not out of step with tradional storytelling. What makes it special for me is the deep humanity in it all. Women of low standing are heroines; Clint stays true to the one woman that once saved his life spiritually; yes, he's doomed to return to his old habits, but only because of his deep friendship for the murdered Ned Logan. And Gene Hackman is a superb Little Bill, the sheriff that goes to, ahem, great lengths to keep his small town clean of thugs (irony intended). So IMHO, one to watch again. I wonder: what is the consensus at FR on this one (if there is one?). Many, many comments are welcome! Cheers, A13.


TOPICS: Arts/Photography; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: eastwood; film; history; hollywood; moviereview; opinion; revisionism; unforgiven
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To: Vaquero
Tombstone was on the History Channel yesterday.

Val Kilmer = Best Doc Holiday ever, imo.

61 posted on 06/16/2008 9:03:15 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Apollo 13

There is so much of the gospel bound up in this movie. Many who profess to believe the good news forget that John, Jesus and their disciples preached repentance for the forgiveness of sin. Modern “Christians” forget this, and enable the falling away of many. Almost all of the quotes favorited here have a specific application from the Scriptures.


62 posted on 06/16/2008 9:03:56 AM PDT by naturalized ("The time has come," He said. "The kingdom of God is near. Repent and believe the good news!")
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To: Lions Gate
I also loved the Audie Murphy westerns.

I guess it is a generational thing. Unforgiven bored me silly and Open range was even worse (that just may have been Kevin Costner). I can watch Shane or The Magnificent Seven over and over.

63 posted on 06/16/2008 9:06:48 AM PDT by saminfl (,/i)
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To: Vaquero

What about “Roy Rogers and the Runaway Stagecoach”? or “Gene Autry and the Legend of the Buried Treasure”? or “Bonanza - the Movie”? or “Zorro - the Movie”? (not technically a western, but sort of) and the classic “High Noon - the Sequel”?

Your list is so . . . unimaginative. You must broaden your horizons. Now, there’s a good idea for a western . . “Broad Horizons” starring some really fat actors.


64 posted on 06/16/2008 9:10:45 AM PDT by Twinkie (TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT !!!)
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To: metesky; All

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8S69smV7Q8

Compilation of scenes TOMBSTONE


65 posted on 06/16/2008 9:12:05 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: OKIEDOC

It’s twooo!!


66 posted on 06/16/2008 9:13:22 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Peace is Not The Question.)
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To: andy58-in-nh
Furthermore:

A very good description of the liberal membership of the Democratic Party.

Hedley Lamarr: I want rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers and Methodists.

Also:

An Obama type description of clinging Western voters.

Jim: You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons.

Also:

Another Obama like description of himself the messiah orator.

Hedley Lamarr: My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.

Taggart: God darnit, Mr. Lamarr, you use your tongue prettier than a twenty dollar whore.

Sorry to intrude on the Clint movies but these quotes from Blazing Saddles really identify the Democrats and their less than adequate candidate.

67 posted on 06/16/2008 9:15:14 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMATIZATION - A Liberals Religion ABORTION - The ultimate form of Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: Vaquero

Great list, although I saw Butch Cassidy for the first time this weekend and really didn’t like it..

You have these two supposed famous bandits who never manage to hit a big score, get chased all over hell and gone, and solve that problem by going to a country where they don’t speak the language and stand out like sore thumbs.

Will Penny is worth watching just for Donald Pleasance out crazying Bruce Dern (which in the 70’s took some doing!).


68 posted on 06/16/2008 9:16:34 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Play that Funky Music Typical White Boy!)
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To: Apollo 13
I'm not sure how FR is set up for movie reviews, but I think it's an excellent movie and I think the Eastwood is an actor who is easy to mock but who attempts greater things than he is given credit for and often achieves them.

And besides he b*tch-slapped Spike Lee. You GO, CLint!

69 posted on 06/16/2008 9:16:44 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Vaquero

I’m willing to put up with the spaghetti westerns to see Lee Van Cleef.


70 posted on 06/16/2008 9:18:54 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Play that Funky Music Typical White Boy!)
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To: Apollo 13
One of the best.

The final shootout is thematic around "staying calm" in the face of murderous chaos. I've hear the teme from LEOs in the past...

One of the great stories about the fallen man.

71 posted on 06/16/2008 9:19:40 AM PDT by Mariner
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To: DCPatriot

Annette Bening was superb in Open Range, loved her performance.


72 posted on 06/16/2008 9:20:04 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (Typical gringa)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid is based on real people and as much as any historical movie has been adulterated with artistic license, this one is close to being the real deal.

of course if your problem with the movie is the 2 libs who share the title, then I agree with you.


73 posted on 06/16/2008 9:22:01 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: OKIEDOC

In reference to the Democrats, I’m always reminded of Gov Lapetomane’s admonition: “Gentlemen: we have to protect our phoney-baloney jobs!”


74 posted on 06/16/2008 9:22:32 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Peace is Not The Question.)
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To: AngryCapitolist
"Open Range," great. Sort of like "Lonesome Dove" with SOME good feelings at the end.

But Plainview NOT a villain? LOL. Hate to end up in a concentration camp under your watch!

75 posted on 06/16/2008 9:22:57 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Alberta's Child; Vaquero
I would add “Once Upon a Time in the West” to all time great Westerns. I asked jack Elam once about the fly - it was all ab lib.
76 posted on 06/16/2008 9:25:13 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Will this thread be jacked by a Mormon?)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I like Lee, Clint, Eli Wallach, Charles Bronson...... and Henry Fonda as the consummate evil in “once upon a time...” is fantastic.

I just don’t like the Spaghetti genre. too Kung Fo movieish.


77 posted on 06/16/2008 9:25:46 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Apollo 13
what is the consensus at FR on this one

We couldn't agree on whether to have a consensus on this movie at our last meeting.

78 posted on 06/16/2008 9:27:00 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Apollo 13

Welcome to Free Republic. Are we British, perchance?


79 posted on 06/16/2008 9:28:12 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (ISLAM IS THE SPIRIT OF ANTICHRIST, DIRECTED BY SATAN AND HIS FALLEN COMRADES.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Excellent movie...

Excellent sound track...

80 posted on 06/16/2008 9:28:46 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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