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Posted on 05/03/2008 8:48:06 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
Remember the Godfather movie advice about keeping your friends close, but your enemies closer? I suspect Yasir the Egyptian was more concerned about an upward mobility try by one of his underlings, or a *black flag* job from his East German/Stasi control and boyfriend than he was about a serious try by the Israelis. And since Yasir spent much of his time during indoors office hours, the report and muzzle blast of the PM63 wouldn't be quite as hard on his ears.
I attended the foreign materials intel groups weapons courses at Aberdeen and a few others st Springfield VA, Camp Harvey NC etc many times and never got to shoot or handle this weapon. Not even sure they had one in their armories. You ever lay hands on the PM-63 aka Pistolet Maszynowy wz.63 ?
Yep. We had a pair of 'em at Bad Tölz for the foreign weapons fam courses, since some of the Russian SMLM observers authorized to view NATO operations in USAREUR carried the things in their diplomatic bags. The .32 auto Czech vz. 61 *Škorpion* machinepistol was another one those fellers favored, as did terrorist *Carlos the Jackal.* Though jacketed .32 ACP rounds aren't terribly great for stopping charging bears, a 10 or 20-round magazine's worth on full auto worked pretty well in those days before Kevlar undies were common, the muzzle flash and noise at night [or inside a car] was minimal, and a screw-on silencer was available. Most of the European cops back then were carrying .32ACP/7,65 Browning pocket pistols, so ammo was available for the .32; the PM-63 RAK would have been a better pick for locales where 9mm Makarov ammo was available, and more controlable than an APS Stechkin...but an awful lot of the PM-63s floating around in the world, particularly in Africa, are actually Chinese-made Type 82 copies.
If any of those courses you took were taught by *FSTC Warrant Officers* we may have crossed paths....
Not sure if the instructors at Springfield or Point Harvey were active duty....we were in a don’t ask mode with exceptions of the weapons and munitions, vehicles, radio and gear we were being taught.....
At Aberdeen instructors were in uniform without specific tabs or other ID shy of standard BDU’s and we didn’t care. Weapons I enjoyed and excelled with on the ranges in those courses were the PG-7 series and the SVD/FPK’s..... The FPK especially . That rifle w/o a scope was dead on accurate and instructors kept handing me more ammo and giving me more targets across the long part of the aberdeen range.
The PG-7’s big eye opener was a reversal of everything I had been taught on windage.......:o) Took me one round to go WTF and the rest were easy when the sighting principals were taught. Real quiet, tolerable on that big open ranges and so loud in urban and canyons I thought the damn thing had went off on my shoulder vs downrange !
Big fan of the FPK / SVD series.....
Stay safe Archy !
So...I opened my last pair of disposable contacts right after the beach. I waited a couple of weeks to order the new ones (cash flow).
I’ve been calling them once a week since August 1st. The first call, she said she’d call me right back. Never happened.
Second call said she’d order them. That was August 8.
Last week a charge for $186.00 from the eye doctor showed up on my visa/debit card. It was more than I’d been spending for contacts, but I figured the price had gone up.
So, I should have had them by now. I called this morning to find out where they were.
Not only did they not have any order for me. No one can tell me what the $186 charge is for.
I double checked our records. Luke was the last one of us there for a visit. That was April 23.
grrrrr....
< /rant>
Y’all are both just way too quiet.
We’re still prayin’ for ya. Check in when you can.
Aw geeze! Bummer!
Well, I let the kittens out.
I can assure you that one guy who taught the 12.7 DShK and NSV MGs and 14.5mm KPV gunnery at Harvey Point was not active duty at the time. The 12.7mm Utjos and 6P50 Kord guns [.50 MG with bipod!] were not available at the time, which sort of broke my heart.
we were in a don’t ask mode with exceptions of the weapons and munitions, vehicles, radio and gear we were being taught....
It was strongly suggested that we pick short last *cover names* and instruction *work names* such as Ward, Davis, etc.- *Smith* and *Jones* were declared no-nos as beiong too obvious, and that we use our middle names as our first, in my case,*James.* So for a last name, I thought I'd follow their *short 4-letter name* suggestion, and I tried for *Kirk.* Middle initial *T....*
At Aberdeen instructors were in uniform without specific tabs or other ID shy of standard BDU’s and we didn’t care. Weapons I enjoyed and excelled with on the ranges in those courses were the PG-7 series and the SVD/FPK’s..... The FPK especially . That rifle w/o a scope was dead on accurate and instructors kept handing me more ammo and giving me more targets across the long part of the aberdeen range.
The *FPK* designation was a misnomer from a bad translation made from Romanian to Russian to English, though you still hear it in Army and spooky corners here and there from time to time and the folks at Tennessee Guns used the FPK moniker as the designation for their guns built up from new-manufactured receivers and PSL parts kits; the Romanians call the things Romanian PSL, the 4x scope the LPS. The two PSL rifles that I've wrung out extensively [over 2000 rounds each] were about as accurate as a good M1 Garand, and I like good Garands. I was less thrilled about the 4x scope, which may not have been optimized for the 7,62x54r 151-grain 7N14 sniper ammunition. The quick and dirty solution was to use the iron sights, as you describe, but my longer-term solution was to replace the LPS with a PSO 8x42D. Much nicer! And with Finnish Lapua 7,62x53R ammo with the 148gr D-47 bullet, they shoot even better, though I try to save that stuff for my Finnish boltguns.
The PG-7’s big eye opener was a reversal of everything I had been taught on windage.......:o)
Yeah, leading the target to account for a tailwind on the target seems...wrong. The same was true with the OG15V HE-Frag round used by the 73 mm smoothbore gun-launcher on the BMD/BMP tracked infantry vevicles and some BTP wheelies.
Took me one round to go WTF and the rest were easy when the sighting principals were taught. Real quiet, tolerable on that big open ranges and so loud in urban and canyons I thought the damn thing had went off on my shoulder vs downrange !
In the late 1970s and early 1980s, we suspended familiarization firing of PG-7 grenades for US troops, then mostly headed for Egypt for the annual Bright Star exercises with the Egyptians, after a couple of detonation-on-firing incidents, fatal for the firers. So sometimes they do go off on the firer's shoulder vs downrange....
Big fan of the FPK / SVD series.....
Me too. Pretty much uniformly good shooters, and available for under a grand or so.
Stay safe Archy !
Hold my beer, and watch this!
Oh? How’s that goin’?
Well, they’re ‘ploring around, and playing chase games with Wicket. I may not catch them again. ;~)
No pictures?
Oh - there will be pictures :~)
Who let the cats out?
who who who who who....
How is Gidget handling all this kitten activity?
You may have to use the live trap in the house....
Is it time to go home yet?
Ugh.
Long day.
Tell me about it. And I have four hours to go. Unless I can manage to convince folks to let me go early to make up for the day I came in before hours last week. And for staying almost an hour late on Friday. And such.
I have my doubts.
I’ll be putting the finishing touches on that short story tonight. I wanna go write on my big honkin’ typewriter.
Here's a few pics of 'ploring kittens.
Most of the pictures I captured were of the kittens peeking from behind something... like little ground hogs... 
Just one of sister, I guess!
I'll probably let them out again a little later. For now I'm trying to get some other things done, like dishes, cleaning stalls, some work, you know...
Oh - and Gidget I put outside for this. :~) And Barkley.
I just need a nap... need to kick this cold or whatever it is. We’re driving to Texas Thursday for Talon’s family reunion (and a job interview Friday in Dallas on the way, cross your fingers) and I’d like to feel better by then. He’s got a bunch of cousins and aunts and things I haven’t met and I’d rather I didn’t give them a cold.
On the other hand...there’s nothing that says “we are family” like passing on colds and such. ;-)
Sounds successful to me!
Brother really does have an interesting face...much different from Butters.
And he's kind of an orange tuxedo cat. ;-) Like something from the 70s....
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