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Pookie's Toons?

Posted on 04/22/2008 2:36:44 PM PDT by 8roundclip

What happened to Pookie's Toons?


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To: Sidebar Moderator

Why so defensive? Can’t people here have a simple conversation without the mods butting in and flooding the lousy thread with repetitive comments? Someone simply asked where Pookie’s Toons was. The next thing you know the thread is hijacked by the mods to justify their actions. Can we just stop this nonsense already? Leave it be.


21 posted on 04/22/2008 4:39:14 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway” ~~ John Wayne)
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To: mass55th
Why so defensive? Can’t people here have a simple conversation without the mods butting in and flooding the lousy thread with repetitive comments?

We'll keep repeating the core issue here - copyright restrictions and the legal problem posters who flaunt such represent to the health of FR - as long as it takes for certain persons to finally get the point.

Or maybe you just want to bash the volunteer FR mods without us having the opportunity to present our side of the story. Well, there are plenty of places for that.

22 posted on 04/22/2008 4:44:25 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: mass55th
The next thing you know the thread is hijacked by the mods to justify their actions.

So tell us, then - what would you do with a poster who refused to adhere to copyright restrictions? And who made a big stink over moderator requests that they do adhere to such?

We did not ban anyone. We simply took the necessary steps to protect FR from legal jeopardy. And for that, we get a raft of nonsense. For doing a volunteer job.

23 posted on 04/22/2008 4:46:18 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Sidebar Moderator
you also seem to think that the moderators, who are volunteers,

I get it, the Freepathon is just to keep you guys in Beer and Pizza.

Really, It's a thankless job.

24 posted on 04/22/2008 4:49:48 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: Doomonyou
I get it, the Freepathon is just to keep you guys in Beer and Pizza.

Except the beermeister in the mod lounge is busted and the pizza delivery guy never shows up because it's in a seedy neighborhood.

Other than that, the bennies are great.

25 posted on 04/22/2008 4:51:31 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Responsibility2nd
She is still FReeping away. And still kicking butt on others.

What is the mod's name that you keep referring to? You're throwing mud at someone who can't defend themself because none of the mods know who in the heck you're talking about.

All the mods have been freeping for years and we are allowed to freep using our own names. Being a mod does not mean we can't freep and when we do freep, we're not trying to fool anyone. We've all been freepers much longer than we've been mods.

26 posted on 04/22/2008 4:52:11 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator; Jean S

Jean S.

Look at the inflammatory posts she had with Pookie last month. And when she was outed as a Moderator, she backed off.

I found that questionable.


27 posted on 04/22/2008 4:55:41 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Typical White Person)
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To: Sidebar Moderator
"Or maybe you just want to bash the volunteer FR mods without us having the opportunity to present our side of the story. Well, there are plenty of places for that."

What bashing? And are you intimating a threat to me?

28 posted on 04/22/2008 4:57:07 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway” ~~ John Wayne)
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To: mass55th
IAnd are you intimating a threat to me?

Dude,

You begging for a ZOT or what?

LOL!

29 posted on 04/22/2008 5:00:14 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: mass55th
What bashing? And are you intimating a threat to me?

No threat - just saying there are plenty of places on the Internet where folks can rip into the FR moderators without having them respond back.

But FR is not one of those places, for some strange reason.

30 posted on 04/22/2008 5:02:31 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Doomonyou

I’m not a Dude, and I’ve been a member and donor to FR since 1997. This thread didn’t need to be taken in this direction, but it was...by the mods.


31 posted on 04/22/2008 5:05:10 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway” ~~ John Wayne)
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To: Sidebar Moderator

I don’t really know Pookie or the fight in question but speaking as someone who got a one year ban (thus I doubt anyone would confuse me with a moderator).

I think you’re reply was quite reasonable and explained to me precisely FR’s position.

Thank You.


32 posted on 04/22/2008 5:08:21 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: mass55th

Check out the new headline.

Pimping it good, eh?


33 posted on 04/22/2008 5:09:16 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Typical White Person)
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Pookie’s Toons? (LIVE THREAD! The martyrdom saga continues.)

Title change is a classic!


34 posted on 04/22/2008 5:09:24 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: mass55th
This thread didn’t need to be taken in this direction, but it was...by the mods.

There is a fair amount of what moderators do that is a judgement call. Is a post a personal attack? Was it provoked? Is a comment racist or just non-PC?

But copyright and excerpt issues do not fall into that category. They are black and white. For posters to get after the moderators for enforcing requests from media sources regarding what is allowed on FR is wrongheaded. To complain about a mod posting under their real screen name to back up what should be blatantly obvious about copyright restrictions is wrongheaded as well. But apparently a few people seem to think that FR should flaunt excerpt requests. If they want to pony up the legal fees up front, hey, go for it. Until then, the FR policy stands. And for damn good reason.

35 posted on 04/22/2008 5:11:59 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Sidebar Moderator
"No threat - just saying there are plenty of places on the Internet where folks can rip into the FR moderators without having them respond back."

Ok, thanks for clarifying that. But I have a question. Why do the mods feel it necessary to even comment in a thread like this? The job is to moderate right? Not get involved in the discussions taking place? I didn't feel that the comments made on this thread were of the nature that would require the mods to take notice.

36 posted on 04/22/2008 5:12:42 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway” ~~ John Wayne)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Who changed the headline? The mods?


37 posted on 04/22/2008 5:15:47 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway” ~~ John Wayne)
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To: wardaddy
Thanks, wardaddy. I can see beefs from posters about judgement calls regarding moderation. But this isn’t one. The terms are dictated to us by suits in corporations.

And the mods GREATLY appreciate posters who mash abuse to help prevent lawsuits - such as finding that Getty image in reply 1,145. That exceeds the attention span of the average sidebar moderator by 1,140 posts.

38 posted on 04/22/2008 5:16:01 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: mass55th

They’re the only ones who can, so.....


39 posted on 04/22/2008 5:16:46 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Typical White Person)
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To: mass55th
Why do the mods feel it necessary to even comment in a thread like this?

There was a lot of gnashing of teeth and caterwauling over this issue. Some people tried to claim it was personal or capricious or arbitrary. It was not. This is about pure legal CYA for FR. And quite frankly, the mods are puzzled that a few people (not you) are having trouble with that underlying concept.

40 posted on 04/22/2008 5:17:46 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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