You cannot travel that additional distance for less cost regardless of who crews or built the ship.
Posted on 04/16/2008 8:15:37 AM PDT by YankeeMagic
LOL... Environmentalists wackoos... Talk about fear mongering.... anyway what about all the oil in Montana and North Dakota and off the coast of Florida... We can’t drill for any of it because of the Wackoos on the left. Its either it will interrupt the mating rituals of the Yellow bellied-Red-naped Sapsuckers or the migration habits of the mucous eel....but Cuba can sell off shore drilling rights to the Chinese that will drill within 45 miles of coastal Florida with no restrictions they will be posing the same no even greater environmental dangers and the left hearlds Castro’s programs as justified....
Liberalism is a Mental disorder my friend its as simple as that and we remain hostage to the Mid East oil...
A true agent of change would:
1. Slap all the environmentalists and drill in ANWR and coastal regions.
2. Wean us off all sources of foreign oil.
3. Fund a Manhatten Project for alternative fuels.
4. transition our entire country to alternative energy sources with a grand plan of full implementation at 20 years.
Problem solved...
The problem with moonbat relatives is that for every misconception they have that you explain correctly with facts, they have a thousand other ones that they and their kook friends will cling to.
Confront them enough, and they’ll just stop talking with you about politics, or talking to you altogether (either may be a good thing).
Unfortunately, they still get to vote.
It ships to the US, see post 17. Alaskan North Slope has a Sulfur content of ~1.1%, less than the typical 2% from Saudi Arabia or Venezuela. See table 2, page 9 for comparisons.
http://www.energy.ca.gov/2006publications/CEC-600-2006-006/CEC-600-2006-006.PDF
“Wouldnt any new oil coming online from a US source simply reduce the world price by fractions? For every consuming nation on Earth?”
This part is correct.
The rest is not.
It’s just more supply for the demand lowers price.
(It also helps the economy because the money stays in the USA, but that is a different issue.)
Used to be there was not enough refinery capacity on the west coast for Alaska oil but as the oil exported has declined ( some storage tanks shut down a Valdez already) I'm not sure that is a problem now.
Now we certainly can not have US goods transported in US ships manned by US crews now can we. \Down with Globalists
You cannot travel that additional distance for less cost regardless of who crews or built the ship.
Thank you.
Tell them to look at a map. Bulk commodities tend to be shipped to the nearest consumer — that’s the reason much of Alaska’s oil goes to Japan & much of our oil comes from Venezuala & Mexico. It’s a world market.
My wife's pseudo-intellectual uncle told me that soon after Bush was elected his "stormtroopers" would be rounding up citizens who disagreed with his "fascistic" ideology. He now points to Guantanamo as an example of this supposed fascism as if foreign fighters are the same as liberal American citizens.
Once history proves them wrong, liberals move on to a different subject. They cannot handle the emotional impact when their idiotic POV is proved wrong. But, neither will they abandon that idiotic POV.
Correct, and the West Coast Refineries is willing to pay the market price just like Japan Refineries. Now Japan is about twice as far away. BP, ExxonMobil and ConocoPhillips own most of the oil coming out of Valdez. Do they want to pay twice the shipping cost to delivery product or sell to the closest buyer, who is also the world's largest importer?
Back in 1985 or so on a flight from Fairbanks to Seattle we passed over Anchorage on a clear day with the sun lighting up the mountains behind the city and that was postcard picture worthy. Then we passed over Valdez and a little farther on we passed over about 15 of those oil tankers waiting for their turn at the spigot. Everybody on the plane went to the port side to get a look and the pilot had to lean on the control stick to restore balance.
I suggest you look at a map. Japan is about twice as far away from Valdez as our West Coast Refineries.
Alaskan crude was also tranported to Texas via tanker, trans Panama pipeline and tanker.
A clear day over Valdez would be a sight to remember. Many people in my old office got to turn around and fly back since it wasn’t clear enough to land, all too often.
I was fortunate enough to fly in once on a clear day. It is a beautiful view.
If you’re Japanese which is closer? Alaska or Kuwait?
If I’m not mistaken, the only crude that was exported to Japan was the heavy bunker crude, a substance very difficult to refine into gasoline.
Why does that matter to the seller in Valdez?
If you are a West Coast Refinery, which is closer? Alaska or Kuwait?
Much greater distances involved for West Coast.
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