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Let’s boot the lame from Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
BostonHerald.com ^ | March 7, 2008 | Jed Gottlieb

Posted on 03/07/2008 11:56:33 AM PST by GQuagmire

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and your third grade teacher have some strikingly wrong similarities They’re both bloated, dowdy and prissy fossils that are way too full of unconditional love. Oh, and they both get positively giddy over James Taylor’s chardonnay-and-brie, adult-contemporary lullabies.

The Hall of Fame induction committee has never wanted to hurt anyone’s feelings or make tough decisions - like actually defining what is and isn’t rock ’n’ roll - so for 22 years it has distributed inductions like Miss Anderson handed out ribbons on diorama day.

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To: Clemenza
Isn't Rocky Erickson still alive? Probably the greatest band to come out of Austin. Love the Flying Burrito Brothers and Love from that era too.

As we speak I have two 13th Floor Elevators albums on my iPod, 3 Flying Burrito Brothers albums, and the first three Love albums.

Do you like The Sonics? The Flamin' Groovies?

201 posted on 03/10/2008 10:18:28 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake
Sonics rocked. There is a little record store near Boeing Field in Seattle that has the greatest collection of Sonics vinyl I have ever seen, including 7 inchers from Germany.

I consider the Sonics and (early) Paul Revere and the Raiders as the first wave of the Pac Northwest sound. "Psycho" is better than anything Sub Pop ever released.

202 posted on 03/10/2008 10:22:25 AM PDT by Clemenza (I Live in New Jersey for the Same Reason People Slow Down to Look at Car Crashes)
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To: Clemenza
"Psycho" is better than anything Sub Pop ever released.

True. Also, Kurt Cobain is on record as saying that he hated the Sonics - which makes me love them that much more.

The sweet irony of a Seattle superstar -who claimed to be both an undeerground artist and who also styled himself as the champion of supposedly overlooked underground artists like The Vaselines and The Raincoats - banging on his own town's most legendary band.

Not to mention that his own band is perhaps the most overrated act in rock history.

203 posted on 03/10/2008 10:34:15 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

Nirvana just came in at a time when the hair bands had faded, hiphop/dance music was dominating the air waves, and demand among young men who hated both was strong, which is why the whole Seattle scene boomed around ‘92. I should know as I was a sophomore in HS when “Nevermind” came out. It doesn’t hold up very well, btw.


204 posted on 03/10/2008 10:42:12 AM PDT by Clemenza (I Live in New Jersey for the Same Reason People Slow Down to Look at Car Crashes)
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To: Clemenza
Nirvana just came in at a time when the hair bands had faded, hiphop/dance music was dominating the air waves, and demand among young men who hated both was strong, which is why the whole Seattle scene boomed around ‘92. I should know as I was a sophomore in HS when “Nevermind” came out. It doesn’t hold up very well, btw.

I was a college first year coming from the NYC hardcore scene (War Zone, Youth Of Today, Side By Side, Death Before Dishonor, Agnostic Front) - a scene that was actually very collaborative with the NYC hardcore hip-hop scene (Public Enemy, Ultramagnetic MCs, etc.).

I arrived at school with a pretty good familiarity with the music of the London, Los Angeles, Chicago and DC scenes too. Most first years on campus were more in the Poison/Boyz II Men mode. There were a couple of kids from the DC area who were really into Minor Threat, and also some Goth kids.

When Nevermind started getting big, everything went crazy.

It was as if a thousand kids on campus had thrown out their hair metal albums, burned their Def Leppard and Winger and Warrant t-shirts, and went into "alternative music" mode overnight.

It was bizarre. It was an OK album, I guess. I've never owned a copy - storebought, dubbed, burned, downloaded, what have you. I probably haven't heard it in its entirety since the year it came out.

But it transformed everything. In September Bon Jovi was a common soundtrack for impromptu dorm keggers.

By January, if you had tried to play Bon Jovi during a party, you would have been mocked into ostracism.

205 posted on 03/10/2008 11:01:17 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake
Great post.

Re: Agnostic Front. I had my mother buy me "Cause for Alarm" when I was 12. "Public Assistance" is a great song, although Roger Miret had the flu when then made that album (shows up in his voice).

206 posted on 03/10/2008 11:03:36 AM PDT by Clemenza (I Live in New Jersey for the Same Reason People Slow Down to Look at Car Crashes)
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To: ncdrumr

I agree, Heart should be in there. I’ve seen them several times...what an awesome band!!


207 posted on 03/10/2008 11:49:18 AM PDT by StayoutdaBushesWay
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To: netmilsmom

I loved their 60s stuff like Holiday and Words.


208 posted on 03/10/2008 9:46:15 PM PDT by FUMETTI (Elliot Spitzer...resign for the good of New York State)
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To: discostu

Since 1/2 of Elvis’s work was actually pop should he be excluded as well?


209 posted on 03/10/2008 9:47:44 PM PDT by FUMETTI (Elliot Spitzer...resign for the good of New York State)
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To: discostu

A Beatles fan always seems more intelligent and well versed than someone who likes rap or Britney pop...being a fan of their music adds 2 points to any one’s IQ.

I have every Beatles CD, rare DVDs, and books on them. Listen to Abbey Road...not an ounce of saccharine there, even Maxwell’s Silver Hammer.


210 posted on 03/10/2008 9:49:56 PM PDT by FUMETTI (Elliot Spitzer...resign for the good of New York State)
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To: Clemenza

Agreed...I have a boot of some of their television appearances from Sullivan and other shows...their hits are just perfect music.


211 posted on 03/10/2008 9:51:16 PM PDT by FUMETTI (Elliot Spitzer...resign for the good of New York State)
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To: discostu

The greatest true rock band of the sixties were the Yardbirds,IMO, with the three greats Beck, Clapton and Page spawning from it.


212 posted on 03/11/2008 3:55:11 AM PDT by RedCobra
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To: FUMETTI

Well I’m not a fan of rap or pop. Really there’s very little difference between the Beatles and Britney pop. As for the relative IQ I don’t think any music makes anybody smarter, especially not popular music.


213 posted on 03/11/2008 6:47:12 AM PDT by discostu (aliens ate my Buick)
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To: RedCobra

Maybe not the greatest, the Yardbirds really popped outfor a while (why Clapton left), but certainly the most important. All those great guitar players, then the melt down that left Page holding the bag which resulted in Led Zep. Whole lot of great rock and roll never happens without the Yardbirds.


214 posted on 03/11/2008 6:50:06 AM PDT by discostu (aliens ate my Buick)
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To: RedCobra

I agree, I have the Rhino two disc sets: even their Jimmy Page era Yardbirds stuff was amazing for pop: Happenings 10 Years Time Ago, Little Games, I’m Confused (Dazed and Confuse), 10 Little Indians...no argument there.


215 posted on 03/11/2008 8:55:21 AM PDT by FUMETTI (Elliot Spitzer...resign for the good of New York State)
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To: discostu
This from today's Chicago Tribune:

In his only Chicago appearance next season, music director David Robertson will conduct his St. Louis ensemble in an adventuresome program of Mark-Anthony Turnage, Frank Zappa, Edgard Varese and Steven Mackey's Violin Concerto, with Leila Josefowicz as soloist.
216 posted on 03/26/2008 11:44:33 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

See Zappa does get performed. Really just google “zappafest” and you’ll see plenty, mostly in Europe, mostly former Soviet bloc Europe, but plenty.


217 posted on 03/26/2008 11:49:11 AM PDT by discostu (aliens ate my Buick)
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To: Clemenza
my favorite Bill Monroe quote

My favorite Bill Monroe quote, to Frank Sinatra:

"Now, what did you say your name was?"

218 posted on 05/20/2008 2:40:23 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("a wee bit silly." -Lord Trimble on Hillary Clinton's claim of foreign policy "experience".)
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