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Let’s boot the lame from Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
BostonHerald.com ^ | March 7, 2008 | Jed Gottlieb

Posted on 03/07/2008 11:56:33 AM PST by GQuagmire

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and your third grade teacher have some strikingly wrong similarities They’re both bloated, dowdy and prissy fossils that are way too full of unconditional love. Oh, and they both get positively giddy over James Taylor’s chardonnay-and-brie, adult-contemporary lullabies.

The Hall of Fame induction committee has never wanted to hurt anyone’s feelings or make tough decisions - like actually defining what is and isn’t rock ’n’ roll - so for 22 years it has distributed inductions like Miss Anderson handed out ribbons on diorama day.

(Excerpt) Read more at bostonherald.com ...


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To: GQuagmire

There oughta be a Hall of Mediocrity filled with all the popular stuff in all categories, including some entire categories like horror movies, Broadway musicals, romance novels, heavy metal, [c]rap “music”,recent commercial country, and much what’s in the Rock And Roll Hall of Fame. All the rock bands with city, state and continent names would be good candidates to start. The pioneers, the equivalents of the Stalinist Woody Guthrie would have to be talents like Fabian, Frankie Avalon. Steely Dan, Peter Frampton, Dreadful Grape, Jefferson Airplane, and Chicago would each have a separate room dedicated to them. Tom Wolfe’s Three Stooges would appear in the Literature Section.

(Now keep in mind I’m not talking about the Badness Hall of Fame, where Grand Funk Railroad, Iron Butterfly and Bobby Goldsboro would be enshrined among so many other heroes of the indiscriminate masses.)


161 posted on 03/08/2008 10:25:38 AM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: discostu
I quit supporting our local Symphony, because they fired the conductor who had studied at Rochester under Howard Hanson and wouldn't do show tunes shows.
162 posted on 03/08/2008 10:35:29 AM PST by razorback-bert (If yer gunna regret this in the mornin, we kin sleep til afternoon.)
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To: Borges

Not at all. A lot of long form prog rock is busy drowning in it’s own excesses and many of my absolute favorite songs ever a short and tight. The important part of a song is that it work, not it’s length. I like the Beach Boys, a truly talented band that put great music together, can’t stand ABBA too synthetic and saccharine.


163 posted on 03/08/2008 11:26:35 AM PST by discostu (aliens ate my Buick)
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To: discostu

ABBA actually aimed at a glassy, synthetic sound. They were a true studio band. A lot of Americans are used to all pop music having ‘r&b roots’ whereas ABBA was purely middle European which is equated as ‘soulless’ by people who don’t know anything about middle European pop music.


164 posted on 03/08/2008 12:20:45 PM PST by Borges
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To: razorback-bert
I quit supporting our local Symphony, because they fired the conductor who had studied at Rochester under Howard Hanson and wouldn't do show tunes shows.

Who? For a lot of orchestras things like 'Sinatra Night' is the only way they can stay afloat.
165 posted on 03/08/2008 12:21:45 PM PST by Borges
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To: Revolting cat!

Hall of Lame?


166 posted on 03/08/2008 12:23:03 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

No not one night, light music for the whole season and I don’t mean Mozart.

Who be who?


167 posted on 03/08/2008 12:30:17 PM PST by razorback-bert (If yer gunna regret this in the mornin, we kin sleep til afternoon.)
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To: Borges

Well they hit what they were aiming for. Kind of shows the vagueries of taste. In many ways Alan Parsons (who BTW kept most of their stuff in the “radio friendly” 3.5 to 5.5 minute range) is more glassy and synthetic than ABBA, but it’s a glassy and synthetic that I like where as ABBAs is a glassy and synthetic that I don’t. Maybe it’s because AP was a glassy and synthetic prog rock that happened to be radio friendly and be popular, while ABBA was glassy and synthetic pop that was well executed but still pop. When push comes to shove I have never been and will never be a pop guy.


168 posted on 03/08/2008 12:30:21 PM PST by discostu (aliens ate my Buick)
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To: razorback-bert

Oh, the conductor, I don’t remember it has been over ten years.

I go to Houston and Santa Fe for my music now.


169 posted on 03/08/2008 12:31:46 PM PST by razorback-bert (If yer gunna regret this in the mornin, we kin sleep til afternoon.)
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To: GQuagmire

I nomination long overdue. TROWER http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0d1HilfLxA


170 posted on 03/08/2008 12:36:34 PM PST by anglian
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To: anglian

Definitely. Real topshelf performer.


171 posted on 03/08/2008 2:00:34 PM PST by discostu (aliens ate my Buick)
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To: anglian

The problem with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is that the best rock and roll tends not to get famous. I saw bar bands in the ‘80s and early ‘90s that, musically, blow the industry’s current popular offerings out of the water.

For example, if the Hall of Fame doesn’t have these guys, then its opinion is crap:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdzyIja1-Vc

Sort of related... here’s the man who set the standard to which all other rock can only aspire, in a 1986 episode of Crossfire discussing the censorship regime then under consideration by Congress.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ISil7IHzxc

Frank: “I’m a conservative, and you may not like that, but I am.”


172 posted on 03/08/2008 3:22:15 PM PST by Content Provider
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To: GQuagmire

The Eagles out? C’mon. Does this guy think that “Hotel California” is the only song they did? What about “Heartache Tonight”, “The Long Run”, “Doolin’ Dalton”, “Seven Bridges Road”, or “Life’s Been Good”?


173 posted on 03/08/2008 3:28:56 PM PST by Doohickey
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To: ncdrumr
Wolfmother is about the only recent band (”recent” as in since 1991) I’ve been able to get into.

Very interesting that you pick 1991. That was the last year I was able to get into anything new as well, with the industry shoving Nirvana down our throats everything went downhill from there.

174 posted on 03/08/2008 3:32:27 PM PST by Content Provider
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To: Content Provider

Nirvana was a genunine grass roots phenomenon. The late 80s Top 40 was beyond dreadful with the likes of Paula Abdul dominating. Cobain had more talent in his little finger than all these ‘artists’ today combined.


175 posted on 03/08/2008 10:03:01 PM PST by Borges
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To: weegee

Great point. How long did it take Bob Seger to make it to the HOF? I’ve been there. It’s pretty weak.


176 posted on 03/08/2008 10:07:58 PM PST by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: netmilsmom

A lot of the disco stuff was great also-You Should Be Dancing,Staying Alive,Night Fever,etc.
And ballads like Love So Right and Fanny,Be Tender With My Love were superb.


177 posted on 03/08/2008 10:11:41 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: txrangerette

They used to play Blue Angel at my junior high dances.
I thought I had been lifted into Heaven.Such absolute beauty was terrifying to my 13 year old soul.


178 posted on 03/08/2008 10:52:46 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: discostu

“My age is immaterial and purely a well poisoning question, but I’m 38.”

What I was getting at is. Rock and Roll was invented by my generation (I’m 65). It’s just kind of funny for some “kid” to tell me what R&R is supposed to be.

Think Buddy Holly, Everly Bros., Jerry Lee Lewis, the Coasters, Sonny James,etc.


179 posted on 03/09/2008 5:55:56 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: antisocial

http://oldfortyfives.com/TakeMeBackToTheFifties.htm

Here is a link that will give you an idea of where I am coming from.


180 posted on 03/09/2008 7:31:31 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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