Posted on 03/07/2008 11:56:33 AM PST by GQuagmire
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and your third grade teacher have some strikingly wrong similarities They’re both bloated, dowdy and prissy fossils that are way too full of unconditional love. Oh, and they both get positively giddy over James Taylor’s chardonnay-and-brie, adult-contemporary lullabies.
The Hall of Fame induction committee has never wanted to hurt anyone’s feelings or make tough decisions - like actually defining what is and isn’t rock ’n’ roll - so for 22 years it has distributed inductions like Miss Anderson handed out ribbons on diorama day.
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Ha, I was waiting to see how long it took for you to post examples of what you consider "good" music. Zappa is mostly unlistenable. I couldn't ever be bothered with King Crimson. I have all of the Alan Parsons albums and with the exception of a couple of good songs, it's mostly boring, repetitive crap. (I will give him a nod for his production work on Dark Side of the Moon, however). Your postings on this thread have shown only that you are nothing more than a pompous ass whose opinions about what constitutes "good" music mean no more than anybody else's.
Why not just cut to the essence of the argument then and define Rock and Roll as drug induced music and get it over with? Until the Beatles started getting high, they were less Rock than the early BG's. Pure kiddy pop "I want to hold your haaaaaaand" (sheesh, but Paul was the cute one). The rest of this guy's list reads like a rehab who's who. James Taylor, by the way, travelled with the Beatles and took enough drugs to qualify.
Taylor, Seger, Mellonballs, are all as qualified as the Beatles. I hate to see Madonna anywhere though
Christopher Plummer(Captain Von Trapp)hated it for one. He called it "the Sound of Mucus" (for real)
Ever listen to the Beatles Cavern Club recordings made in Hamburg in the early 60s before they hit it big? It was as rocking as anything they ever recorded. Lennon thought it was the best thing they ever did. And something like ‘I Saw Her Standing There’ is Rock pure and simple.
Plummer was being silly. He’s on the commentary of the recent DVD and has a great deal of affection for the movie.
Illinois Enema Bandit is a great song featuring the true dynamic vocal powers of one of Zappa’s best singers (Ray White), but given that part of the point of the song is making fun of some poorly written laws Illinois had it could possibly irritate some people in Illinois. Probably the real reason so many orchestras aren’t playing his music is the same as why they’re not playing the music of most composers that did work after 1975. The symphony audience has gotten old, xenophobic and crabby, if it’s modern they don’t seem to want anything to do with it. This is part of what spawns Zappafests, you have a local symphony somewhere that wants to play some Zappa but doesn’t trust their normal audience to listen, so they make some phone calls, find a couple of cover bands (which frequently have former members of the Zappa band) find another orchestra a couple towns over, find a city councilman willing to shut down some facilities for a couple of days and boom you have a Zappafest.
The album is “Does Humor Belong in Music”, he also named an album after the hallmark roller-disco song (”Sheik Yerbouti” named after “Shake Your Booty”) so it’s not necessarily a compliment.
How sad that you felt the need to resort to personal attacks. And why pray tell would you get most of the Alan Parsons albums if you think it’s mostly boring? Sounds to me like you’re just copping a position.
As for the pompous ass I think the first person that felt the need to insult somebody in the discussion earned that title.
Well the Bernstein show was meant for kids and was quite informative. The CSO actually does a lot of commissions and world premieres! I can’t pretend to like most if it. Though one of the Brits they played was clearly influenced by Miles Davis and said so. One of their other resident composers now is Golijov, the guy who did the score for the recent Francis Ford Coppola film ‘Youth Without Youth’.
The Chicago Bulls use Parsons’ ‘Eye in the Sky’ as their intro music at the start of games. I don’t recall if that’s the exact name of the song.
I don’t know who’s in it and who’s not.
Is Roy Orbison there?
Interesting question, since Roy was known mostly as a ballad singer, during the Rockabilly era. But belieing the Rockabilly, he recorded ballads with orchestral strings backing him, and such like. Reminds me of Buddy Holly’s “True Love Ways” in that regard.
But then you factor in “Pretty Woman”, “Mean Woman Blues”, “Ooby Dooby” and the like and you’ve got Rock.
“Only the Lonely” had a doowop quality. Hard song to categorize.
Personal story.
The year was 1961.
My mom, dad, bro and I were in our old 53 Pontiac heading across the Red River from Texas into Oklahoma and Arkansas for the first vacation trip we ever took, and over the radio I heard this song that knocked my socks off. I thought to myself...”who and what was THAT???” That singer and that song are gonna be forever famous.”
Little did I know...
Wolfmother is about the only recent band (”recent” as in since 1991) I’ve been able to get into. Love them. And they put on a great show.
As for the RRHOF....Until Heart is inducted, the Hall can kiss my ***.
“Crap is crap is crap, who it’s being marketed to and whose concerns it’s addressing doesn’t change that, it’s still crap.”
Please inform the rest of us which music is not crap so that we might enjoy listening to not crap music.
How old are you?
You should try Nickelback. They truly rock. If you're feeling crazier go for Slipknot (mostly hardcore but they do rock) or Buckcherry. Rock 'n Roll is making a comeback. You just don't hear it too much on the radio.
Porgy and Bess is an opera.
You should try Nickelback. They truly rock. If you're feeling crazier go for Slipknot (mostly hardcore but they do rock) or Buckcherry. Rock 'n Roll is making a comeback. You just don't hear it too much on the radio.
One of the greatest rock and roll bands of the past 25 years, SOCIAL DISTORTION.......
That’s good, the symphony audience needs to expand their horizons, it’s the only way they’re going to expand (and more importantly de-age) the audience. Symphonies need to be playing music by people that are alive or at least were recently alive to an audience that isn’t on social security, else they’re going to go away and that would be bad.
A lot of Parsons gets used as sports intros for reasons I have yet to fathom, Lucifer and Voyager are used by guys in the WWE, they’re all over. Great music, the one truly legitimate criticism that can be laid on Alan Parsons is that his music has kind of a plastic sheen to it, Alan is a severe perfectionist and does not believe in the happy accident, it removes a lot of the natural feel from his music. But outside the plastic sheen very amazing, multilayered, well performed music, and anybody saying it all sounds the same is just not paying attention.
Listen to crap if you want. Hell even I the music snob have my guilty pleasures (Deep Purple being high on the list). My age is immaterial and purely a well poisoning question, but I’m 38.
Well that would explain why it doesn’t suck. Great music in Porgy and Bess.
You make the assumption that long form prog rock is inherently superior to the concise 3.5 minute pop song. Matching form and content is what matters. I would guess you don’t like The Beach Boys or ABBA either. Both made brilliant and beautiful pop music in their prime.
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