You must come from Africa there Greek boy!. Thats what the average Greek looks like.
Posted on 02/02/2008 6:25:06 PM PST by freedom44
Oh, yeah - forgot to mention that Xerxes’ father Darius got his butt kicked by the Greeks, too. Darius’ attempt to conquer the Peloponnese ended rather abruptly at Marathon in 490BC.
Perhaps you’ve heard of it?
Um, actually, Spartans treated Spartan women *very* well. Only Spartan women could hold property, for example. In addition, they were considered equals or near equals to the men as they ran the place while all the men were off at war. In fact, Spartan women recieved training in martial arts and the use of weapons.
We really don’t know all that much about the Spartans; they did not believe in written records, What we do know is shown mostly through the distorted lenses of those that wrote about the Spartans. Very little original material survives.
Who are the true Indo-Europeans Dark skinned Greek piece?
Those were different times. The Persians weren’t saints either.
The Spartans did what they had to do to survive, and many peoples around them didn’t. Eventually they succumbed as well.
It is well to be a wolf when living in a world full of wolves.
Ethnically, I’m not from either the Med or the Middle East.
*My* people came along and conquered *yours*, Persian, a lot later than that gay Greek prince did. We burned down most of your cities, killed most of your people, and seized all of your riches. All because you *Persians* couldn’t keep from cutting off the head of our ambassador.
Perhaps you’ve heard of us. We’re called Mongols.
Unfortunately, there will be RETARDS on this thread who will start mouthing off about A-rabs (Iranians are PERSIANS) and how this is "Islamonazi" propaganda.
BTW: Grease, er, Greece is appropriately named.
LONG LIVE CYRUS THE GREAT!!!
Islam holds many nations captive. How many of the world’s billion muslims have a choice of religion more than just a choice between being a muslim or being dead or a second class citizen?
Yes i see the Mongol in you.
Pride and heritage:
The cylinder of Cyrus the Great was discovered in 1878 by the Assyrian archaeologist Hormuz Rassam in his excavations at the site of Babylon. It is barrel-shaped, around 23cm long and 11cm wide, and is inscribed in Akkadian cuneiform. Now housed in the British Museum, it includes a detailed account by Cyrus of his conquest of Babylon in 539BCE and his subsequent humane treatment of his conquered subjects. It has been hailed as the world’s first declaration of human rights.
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Cyrus Cylinder depicted on a postage stamps issued on 12 October 1971 to celebrate the 2,500-year anniversary of the Imperial Regime in Iran
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Cyrus Cylinder chosen as the symbol of 2,500-year anniversary of the Imperial Regime in Iran (Click to enlarge)
The (incomplete) inscription on the cylinder starts by describing the criminal deeds of the Babylonian king Nabonidus (lines 4-8); as well as how Marduk, the Babylonian god, had looked for a new king and chosen Cyrus (lines 9-19). It continues with the famous:
“I am Cyrus, king of the world, the great king, the powerful king, king of Babylon, king of Sumer and Akkad, king of the four quarters of the world” (line 20)
After a description of Cyrus’ ancestry and of royal protocol (lines 21-22), it goes on to explain how Cyrus established peace and abolished forced labour (lines 22-25):
“The people of Babylon . . . the shameful yoke was removed from them” (line 25)
The inscription continues by detailing reparative building activities in Babylon as well as asking for prayers for Cyrus (lines 25-28). It makes specific reference to the Jews, who have been brought to Babylon – and who Cyrus supported in leaving for their homeland.
Demonstrating his religious tolerance, Cyrus restored the local cults by allowing the gods to return to their shrines:
“ . . the gods, who resided in them, I brought back to their places, and caused them to dwell in a residence for all time.
And the gods of Sumer and Akkad – whom Nabonidus, to the anger of the lord of the gods, had brought into Babylon – by the command of Marduk, the great lord, I caused them to take up their dwelling in residences that gladdened the heart” (lines 32-36)
The cylinder describes the Great King not as a conqueror, but as a liberator and the legitimate successor to the crown of Mesopotamia. Cyrus seems to have had no idea of forcing his new subjects into a single Persian identity, and had the wisdom to leave intact the functioning institutions of each kingdom he attached to the Imperial Crown.
Cyrus officially crowned himself “King of Babylon and King of the Land” on the first day of spring 538BCE. After the coronation, which was in Marduk Temple, Cyrus apparently publicly declaimed the words found on the cylinder.
Inscription corroborates many of the details in Ezra 1:1-5 describing Cyrus supporting the Jews in returning to Judea from captivity to rebuild the Temple in 537BCE. Isaiah also backs up the idea of Cyrus as a benign and chosen ruler:
“Thus saith the Lord to the anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden . . . he shall build my city, and he shall let go my captives, not for price nor reward, saith the Lord of hosts” Isaiah 45: 1-13
Yes. By the way, did you know that the MONGOLS had the first quasi-democracy? That our leaders were chosen by election and not by some “god” or “divine right?”
Did you know that in the Mongol empire a naked woman bearing a bag of gold could walk the entire length and width of the empire at its height without fear of being molested? Could never say that about the Persian “Empire.”
Did you know that the Mongol Empire specifically promoted trade, science, research, and education? And that Ghengis Khan preferred trade to combat?
Did you know that in the Mongol Empire, governors were forbidden to abuse the governed on pain of death? And that there was a system of laws and trials for the accused?
Did you know that in the Mongol Empire, freedom of religion was not only tolerated but that those who attempted to oppress others’ religions were severely punished?
I dare say *my* empire was a lot more “fair” and “Western” than your vaguely imagined glories. You Persians have a LOT to answer for - especially in how you poisoned European chroniclers’ history of us.
Moguls had nothing to offer but hatred and barbarism my friend.
Funny you denounce the Persians.
It is when the reason we did it is because the Persians cut off the head of our ambassador (who was one of Ghenghis’ best friends) and sent it back to us in a bag. The Persians don’t generally tell people that that is why the Mongols went to war - because it makes their “civilization” look like the primitive, brutal, and senseless mess it really is.
We *tried* trading with them, talking to them... all we got was suspicion, derision, and what they thought was violence with impunity.
They’re not laughing at our “ineffective Khan” any more.
Oh right, like the Mongols were a civilized humane society. The Persians had their faults, but there was no need for the Mongols to go in and kill everyone.
I denounce the Persians because I *know* your culture well, Persian.
In fact, I have one of your books, looted about 500-some-odd years ago from the ruins of one of your capitals. My many-times-great-grandfather was very upset about your people cutting the head off of his second cousin, the ambassador.
LAZARUS LONG
Why bring his sexuality into it? Why not refer to Alexander as one of the greatest commanders who ever lived, a military genius who inspired his troops to push farther and harder to achieve military gains that had never before been achieved.
Hey, we gave them a chance to surrender, every time we came to a city. Most of the time they said no. If they said yes, they actually got to live under a system that was much more free than their Persian overlords’ had been - with no penalty. That’s right - if you surrendered, you were not molested. (Horde members that molested those who surrendered were put to death.)
I’m not pretending that we were the civilized light in the world at the time, but Western history has a very broken view of the Mongols.
By the way, if you had command of the largest and best army on earth, and someone sent you the head of your best friend back in a bag along with a note that read “Whatcha going to do about it?”, what would you do?
Most people would go exact revenge.
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