Posted on 12/27/2007 6:35:20 AM PST by fignewton
I was a Park Ranger in Yellowstone, and I’ve seen numerous tourists walk up to bears and bison and treat them as if they were bunny rabbits.
I was also a ranger in Alaska, where I saw the same thing with bears and moose, and I did a lot of backpacking in Glacier park, where grizzlies have killed people.
By your “logic” if and when those bears/moose/bison attacked the foolish tourists/backpackers, they deserve to be killed by the beasts, as they instigated it.
I don’t believe in taunting animals, but Man was created by God, he has a soul, and has far more value than any animal, no matter how magnificent, and if I am ever at a zoo or park and someone is being attacked by an animal, no matter how the attack was instigated, I will pull my gun and shoot that animal.
People, with souls and ever-lasting lives, in Heaven or Hell, have far more value than animals...to think differently is to adopt the sick PETA mentality that says “ a dog is a rat is a boy.”
I expect to see such foolish, anti-Life and anti-Christian beliefs on DU, but I never, ever thought I would see such anti-Life sentiments here on free Republic.
Ed
As it turns out the wall isn’t 20 feet or even 15 feet tall. Its 12.5 feet tall. I think we just saw the City of San Fran be sued into bankruptcy.
Yeah, him... Geez, what a delusional dope!
Yep, i believe your correct.
‘The keepers were probably working—cleaning, feeding, training( themselves and the animals), attending meetings, giving lectures, building and repairing things and generaly filling an eight hour day with manual labor. They do not have the time to stand around gaurding exhibits. As for security—most zoos have none at all. Those that do have generally one or two cops on duty on a normal day.’
Sorry, thats a piss poor excuse, and unsupported by the available facts. Try offering that up in the coming Civil Suits....(chuckle)
“Sorry, thats a piss poor excuse, and unsupported by the available facts. Try offering that up in the coming Civil Suits....(chuckle)”
Its not the lack of people guarding the animals that will get them. Its the short wall, lack of emergency lighting, lack of a response plan, and lack of cameras that will cost em.
‘Its not the lack of people guarding the animals that will get them. Its the short wall, lack of emergency lighting, lack of a response plan, and lack of cameras that will cost em.’
Lack of Due Diligence, in short. The fact the Zoo was closed, but they didn’t have a ‘sweep’ of the grounds is mind boggling to any security professional.
Someone would have to watch for idiots at every cage, then. How about assuming personal responsibility? Everyone I know KNOWS that tigers eat people up. Or sign a waiver when you enter the zoo.
‘Someone would have to watch for idiots at every cage, then. How about assuming personal responsibility? Everyone I know KNOWS that tigers eat people up. Or sign a waiver when you enter the zoo.’
Do you feel this way at a public pool? Or a public stadium?
Second point, not every cage contains a certifiable carnivore that considers human’s ‘the other white meat’, so you don’t need somebody ‘at every cage’.
The Zoo screwed up, and I can tell ‘why’.
They decided they didn’t need state of the art security. In the end, this is the result of the Zoo ignoring security professional’s recommendations at some point. The decision was overtly made ‘not to have top flight security’.
It was based wholly on costs, both installation (camera’s, a central control room to monitor them and control door access) and manpower (paying for 24 hour monitoring by in house security staff, or contracted).
I’ve been involved in this sort of thing all of my professional life, primarily at Banks. The same thing happens every time. Bean counters make the argument that security is a waste of money, beyond locked doors. Access control systems are a waste of profit. Camera’s don’t do any good, and cost too much, etc etc etc.
Then something like this happens, and nobody holds the bean counters accountable.
We will never know the name of the financial officer at the Zoo that fought against the recommendations. You never do.
But I can guarantee you people at the Zoo KNOW who blocked first class, state of the art security and access control systems.
I guarantee it, based on my own experiences.
If you mourn the tiger, then your priorities are mixed up.
Very conservative of you.
I have to admit: that's clever and funny.
You choose the dross, I have no use for dead weight, enjoy!
I was a trapper in another life too, ahhh Courier duboi!
Not really. Our priorities differ. ;-)
How so? I happen to be a keeper and know what must be done day in and day out. And sitting outside guarding an exhibit is not one of them. You'd be written up faster than that tiger got out for being unproductive.
So how about enlightening me with your available facts? It's certainly easy to point fingers when you know nothing about the job in question.
If it WAS still on the shelves, what children would be learning is that when tigers run very fast, they turn into melted butter.
Yes, that too, and children are impoverished for not knowing that (tigers turn into melted butter, or ‘ghee’ as it is called in India.)
- Calvin and Hobbes
Full Disclosure: My wife and I took the kids to see the Minnesota zoo a few years ago over the Christmas/New Year's break. It was 9 degrees outside, the zoo was almost empty.
We, too, went to see the tiger enclosure (Siberian Tigers).
They were romping around like kittens!
That is, until they saw us. All three of them sat down looking right at us; and then one began pacing back and forth while still looking at us.
You could tell what they were thinking--"How nice of you to join us for lunch. You're the main course."
Fortunately, the Minnesota Zoo had a large enough moat that they couldn't even try it.
Cheers!
- Calvin and Hobbes
Full Disclosure: My wife and I took the kids to see the Minnesota zoo a few years ago over the Christmas/New Year's break. It was 9 degrees outside, the zoo was almost empty.
We, too, went to see the tiger enclosure (Siberian Tigers).
They were romping around like kittens!
That is, until they saw us. All three of them sat down looking right at us; and then one began pacing back and forth while still looking at us.
You could tell what they were thinking--"How nice of you to join us for lunch. You're the main course."
Fortunately, the Minnesota Zoo had a large enough moat that they couldn't even try it.
Cheers!
Blame "man" first...and the money will keep flowing. Start thinking twice about holding these critters in cages and the money flow stops.
I simply don't believe in Zoos.
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