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Are Pollsters Censoring Ron Paul from State Polls?
USA Election Polls ^ | May 18, 2007

Posted on 11/08/2007 8:51:31 AM PST by ksen

There have been 27 republican primary polls taken this calendar year WITHOUT referencing Ron Paul. And only 5 polls with Ron Paul.

(Excerpt) Read more at usaelectionpolls.com ...


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To: ksen

No. That just wishful thinking from the Paulbots. Their god, Der Paul, really is this unpopular with the average voter.


21 posted on 11/08/2007 9:12:02 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Pacifism is not moral. True morality requires evil be opposed, not appeased)
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To: deport

lol. I was getting ready to post that link myself. :)


22 posted on 11/08/2007 9:13:35 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: NapkinUser; DreamsofPolycarp; The_Eaglet; Irontank; Gamecock; elkfersupper; dcwusmc; gnarledmaw; ...

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Those polls may start changing suddenly. LOL.

Ron Paul just grabbed the media by the throat and got their attention with the only language they understand: money.

Howard Kurtz - Paul's Haul - washingtonpost.com



23 posted on 11/08/2007 9:14:36 AM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: geo40xyz
Well, I believe it has to do with the FACT that RP is NOT a Republican. Maybe a RINO or just a plain old democRAT dressed in republican cloths...

More disinfo and libel.

Ron Paul is and has always been a Republican, starting with being a dedicated Goldwater Republican. He was one of the four congressmen who endorsed and supported Ronald Reagan in '76 against Gerry Ford. Even when he ran as the Libertarian candidate in 1988, he never left the Republican party (though he tried as a matter of honor and the RNC chairman talked him out of it). And he never changed his core political positions even while the Libertarian candidate. However, about half of the Libertarians turned into pro-lifers whereas their party had been entirely a pro-abortion bastion prior to RP's run as their nominee.

Source: CSM - What's behind Ron Paul's huge '08 fundraising haul
24 posted on 11/08/2007 9:31:27 AM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: Ohioan
The parenthesis after your handle is supposed to mean just what?

Exactly what it says. Just someone wraps themselves in the cloak of something (the Bible, the Constitution, whatever) doesn't make them the champion of that cloak. This has been discussed in hundreds of threads here.

25 posted on 11/08/2007 9:33:15 AM PST by mnehring (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: Ohioan

Have you actually heard what he has said or are you going by what people have said he has said, who haven’t heard him either?


26 posted on 11/08/2007 9:35:12 AM PST by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: ksen

And John ox didn’t get mentioned in any, did he?


27 posted on 11/08/2007 9:35:57 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Now more popular than Congress!* *According to a new RasMESSen Poll.)
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To: ksen

And John Cox didn’t get mentioned in any, did he?


28 posted on 11/08/2007 9:36:14 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Now more popular than Congress!* *According to a new RasMESSen Poll.)
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To: George W. Bush; geo40xyz

Gee, what happened to the old line that Ron Paul switched to the Republican Party because his wife asked him to?
..And said himself after he switched that it was just more practical to run as a Republican... and said “you don’t get a fair shake unless you join the establishment”


29 posted on 11/08/2007 9:41:29 AM PST by mnehring (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: mnehrling
He does not wrap himself in the Constitution. Throughout his political life, he has been guided by it in his voting and speaking record.

Again, I challenge you to cite one example, where Ron Paul has not lived up to his oath of Office. There are few inside the Beltway, these past 18 years, about whom one can make that statement.

William Flax

30 posted on 11/08/2007 9:42:47 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: ksen

Let me know when Wrong Paul’s poll numbers are higher than the margin of error.


31 posted on 11/08/2007 9:44:05 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Now more popular than Congress!* *According to a new RasMESSen Poll.)
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To: svcw
I have admired Ron Paul for standing fast, amidst all of the trimming and subterfuge in Washington, for a long time now.

I would also commend him for standing up to the sloganeers in the recent Republican Presidential debates. Obviously, the 60 second sound bite is not his strong suit. He has a lot more to say than can be covered in 60 seconds. But he is gradually getting the message out.

And, by the way. You know the interesting thing is--the really vital thing is--that every time he convinces a young voter to actually go and read what the Constitution has to say, we have a real chance of winning a Conservative voter for life! The Constitution really is one of the strongest answers to the Socialists and their Collectivist dependence mantra.

Paul also shows a clear understanding of economics. He is not one of those puzzled by what is happening to the dollar, right now.

William Flax

32 posted on 11/08/2007 9:49:32 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

Just one? Sure, saying that the authorization for the use of force in Iraq was not a legal declaration of war in Iraq but, accepting the same type of authorization for the war in Afghanistan. Completely ignoring Article 1, Section 8, Subsection 10 on the declaration of war when citing subsection 11.


33 posted on 11/08/2007 9:50:25 AM PST by mnehring (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: George W. Bush
‘libel’!!!! Calling a rat, A RAT is not libel its the truth and you Paul-stiens have lost the ‘light’.. SFO
34 posted on 11/08/2007 9:51:36 AM PST by geo40xyz ((Born a democRAT, Dad set me free in 1952: He said that I was not required to be a MF'ing democRAT))
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To: ksen
Trying to get honest poll with RonPaul’s name on it is impossible.

ANYTIME you see a poll with his name on it you can confidently disregard his outcome because the Paulistas spam every one of them.

35 posted on 11/08/2007 9:51:53 AM PST by shbox (BobbyHill: "What's the matter with those people, Dad?" HankHill: "They're hippies, son")
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To: shbox

Good point, just ask LittleGreenFootballs, RedState, or Wired.


36 posted on 11/08/2007 9:52:59 AM PST by mnehring (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: Ohioan
You’ll love this one:
http://news.aol.com/elections-blog/2007/06/08/the-ron-paul-charade/

The Ron Paul Charade

Posted Jun 8th 2007 2:26PM by Scott
Filed under: President 2008, Republicans, Ron Paul

Since it’s Friday, I thought I’d write something on the light side. I couldn’t think of anything lighter than the gravitas of the Ron Paul campaign.

Paul is a congressman from Texas who calls himself a Republican but is more of a neo-libertarian. He constantly refers to the Constitution and acts as if his interpretation is the only true interpretation. He has a rabid, small following who Google his name three times a day (this will help them find this piece: Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul) and comment on every Web site that mentions him. If what is said is derogatory, they become venomous and launch ad hominem attacks at the writer, kind of like LaRouchians. They go to every Internet presidential poll and vote for him repeatedly and then carp that America loves the man because he won a poll they rigged.

But let’s look at Ron Paul on the issues. Let’s start with national security:

Both Jefferson and Washington warned us about entangling ourselves in the affairs of other nations. Today, we have troops in 130 countries. We are spread so thin that we have too few troops defending America. And now, there are new calls for a draft of our young men and women.

We can continue to fund and fight no-win police actions around the globe, or we can refocus on securing America and bring the troops home. No war should ever be fought without a declaration of war voted upon by the Congress, as required by the Constitution.
Note that the only one to ever call or talk about a draft is Ron Paul and Charles Rangel and Rangel did it purely for political reasons. For the record, Congress did vote. I believe Paul was serving at the time. Note also every answer has the word “Constitution” in it.

He’s against the Patriot Act, which has been used successfully in numerous cases and has proved to not be as intrusive as Paul and liberals have said.

I do agree with Paul on several issues — immigration reform and tax relief — but his stand on national security is one I’ll never get past. We are fighting them over there and not here. We have not been attacked in the U.S. because of the WOT and Paul knows this. He just chooses to ignore it.

He’s a small-time candidate who will maybe get as many votes as Ralph Nader in a good year. He has a bit of an Internet recognition thing going but ask 100 or so average Americans on the street what they think of Ron Paul and you’ll get 99 blank stares and one guy who will agree with Paul (or his ghost-writing staffers) that the Israel lobby runs the U.S.

But Scott, you’ll all say, “he’s won every major poll after the debates on MSNBC, CNN, blah, blah, blah..”

I’ll say, “so what?” These polls mean nothing. Does anyone think that Hillary or Rudy have an e-mail list that they send out information on these votes urging their supporters to vote? Of course not, because it means nothing. Look at Rasmussen or any of the other polls, at present, Ron Paul is carrying at best 3% and is not even a footnote at Real Clear Politics. In other words, his campaign is a sham.

It’s nice that he has automaton supporters who bristle at every cross word said about their hero (believe me, I’m glad they’re occupying themselves on the net), but that and twice as many of you might give you .0008% of the total American vote.
Bring it Ron Paul fans, vent your ire. I predict that the first comment comes within ten minutes of this being posted and it’s a slam at me for either “hating the Constitution” or “supporting those who wish to create and oligarchy”.

37 posted on 11/08/2007 9:54:23 AM PST by mnehring (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: mnehrling
Just one? Sure, saying that the authorization for the use of force in Iraq was not a legal declaration of war in Iraq but, accepting the same type of authorization for the war in Afghanistan. Completely ignoring Article 1, Section 8, Subsection 10 on the declaration of war when citing subsection 11.

The invasion of Afghanistan was in response to an attack on America originating in Afghanistan. It was similar, conceptually, to Pershing's incursion into Mexico in pursuit of Pancho Villa.

Now, personally, speaking only for myself and not for my candidate, I have been willing to give the Administration a pass on the original decision to attack Iraq in 2003. My personal criticism is over the failure to celebrate our quick victory, and leave, turning the country over to a council of its natural leaders, to sort out where they want to go. We are destroying our currency because no one in Washington, Democrat or Republican--except for Ron Paul and a small handful of others--understand what the incredible deficits are setting in motion. We have to find a basis to drastically cut back, and you do not seem even aware of that aspect of the crises.

William Flax

38 posted on 11/08/2007 10:07:28 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: ksen

It is a nice circular scam which, because of the follow-the-leader feedback mechanism, ensures that the media retains a certain degree of control over political coronations. Duncan Hunter, Ron Paul, Tom Tancredo, and lately even Fred Thompson are left out of some polls - while McCain and the Huckster are always included.

People who do not think that the leftist media is making a hedge are deluding themselves - if it isn’t a Democrat in the White House, it better damn well be a “moderate” (ie some combination of pro-tax, anti-RKBA, pro-”choice”, pro-gay, nanny-state, or pro-illegal) Republican. The MSDBM will turn pro-war with a Democrat in the White House, so that issue is not a concern for the masters of the sheeple.


39 posted on 11/08/2007 10:08:46 AM PST by M203M4 (MSDBM: pushing pro-"choice" and now pro-life liberals (hedges in the event of Marxist failure))
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To: Ohioan
and you do not seem even aware of that aspect of the crises.

Yea, that darn degree in economics really is blinding me.

40 posted on 11/08/2007 10:30:37 AM PST by mnehring (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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