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Anna Nicole Smith, Seeking Justice #4

Posted on 10/13/2007 6:14:00 PM PDT by fatima

Anna Nicole Smith, Seeking Justice #4


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To: Sacajaweau

Wecht was on the Today show talking about the autopsy he did on that woman who hanged herself in the airport. The reporter kept trying to get him to say if she wasn’t alone she could have been saved. I didn’t get his response. He did say that she died of strangulation but disagrees on how it happened.


3,221 posted on 11/14/2007 5:06:54 PM PST by TrishaSC
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To: Sacajaweau

‘’’Her license site says, physician, surgeon.’’’

It isn’t ‘her’ site. It is the state data base. Their hot sheets don’t differentiate between a MD or Surgeon either but I am sure without Certification she is not a surgeon. A peds allergist says the same thing.

Physicians & Surgeons .. is on all hotsheets too. The only way to tell the diff is to see they are Certified as a surgeon. “AND” is the key word for type of license categories.

Too bad she isn’t on the hotsheets!! What in the heck is wrong with CA?! FYI .. here are all the hotsheets since 2004
http://www.medbd.ca.gov/publications/hotsheets.html

Taking a sliver out could be considered surgery. Any cutting into the body is formally a surgerical procedure in the sense of medical licensing but it does not mean they are board Certified surgeons if that makes sense.

Look at the fool that operated on West before she died! HE WAS A BIG SHOT ON THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL for crying out loud!
They didn’t even check his file??? Unbelievable.
And by all bets, he will probably keep his license. Sickening what self governing boards let kill and go on. :(
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/11/13/west.surgeon/?iref=mpstoryview


3,222 posted on 11/14/2007 5:40:53 PM PST by nature
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To: nature
That's what I said. That's where you go to check for a license...the Ca database. The her reference is to her license.

I have a Professional License!!

3,223 posted on 11/14/2007 6:08:02 PM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: blueplum

Perper bunk. Read his report.. peripheral blood is not an organ!

He had the CH. Supposedly he had KE and HKS telling him about the many CH doses! And with all that, he can’t find CH in any form until weeks later and at least two or more tests before he runs the CH????

Blood, not organs “peripheral blood” .... it was right there! But he wants to act like it was too difficult to find? Hogwash. His toxicologist doesn’t know what to test? The lab is too stupid to know to check this blood sample for CH AND its metabolites on the first run? All three, perper, the lab and tox is too stupid to know or look up CH and how to find it? He KNOWS the short life is 4 minutes (so he tells us) yet everyone is so ignorant or incompetent they never thought to test the blood correctly?

Mr Spin does a good job.. at spin.

Why did it take until the 27th for him to test this blood and get results of any kind?


3,224 posted on 11/14/2007 6:09:10 PM PST by nature
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To: blueplum

‘’’’why would anyone need rx potassium? ‘’’

There are different types of potassium drugs. This one, is
Klor-Con which is potassium chloride.
diuretics can cause low potassium. SOME quacks RX them together to prevent low potassium from occurring. However, a really good doc would prescribe the diuretics and check the potassium levels rather than dump drugs without knowing. It is an age old argument. Anyway,this one is sometimes prescribed in relation to some specific high blood pressure cases.

Since it is the only one in KE’s name, it could also actually be her own RX too. Dr Death wouldn’t self medicate, how foolish of me, that would be against the law.


3,225 posted on 11/14/2007 6:21:13 PM PST by nature
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To: nature
I repeat questions asked previously: Why had Perper not been fired? Why isn’t he questioned by law enforcement? Have his credentials been verified? Is Perper for sale? What does his supervisor say about him mishandling the Anna Nicole autopsy?
3,226 posted on 11/14/2007 6:24:25 PM PST by Jane Austen
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To: All
5 days to the inquest. Will it happen? No!

Why? There is "on going litigation" of witness tampering involving two of the witnesses scheduled for the inquest.

Hell..I can write Howard's plot from here on in.

He is crying "broke". Let's see...he'll file bamkruptcy?? (Just like Anna did!!) To avoid paying the folks that are looking for payment.

According to Howard, he now owes his mom and dad thousands of dollars?? Are they suing him?? I think Bonnie may be the "offshore" key??

3,227 posted on 11/14/2007 6:30:42 PM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: blueplum

1. we have a hospital prescribing methadone for Anna, per press release

2. we have methadone pills, per Lauri

3. we have methadone liquid rx’d to Stern

4. we have an unfulfilled request for methadone pills for stern by Khrisvorkiana


1. Where do you see the hospital giving her methadone? Perper’s press release? I don’t see it there.
3. Where do you see liquid rx’d to Stern? The methadone in the frig was sent August, to Vicki by Kapoor via key pharmacy. http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_documents/ans_key_pharm_082506.pdf

There is no Methadone on the Broward CO official list under Stern’s name liquid or pills and this is the only ‘STERN’ meds we know of to date.
4. No one ever said that laundry list was for Stern. Where do you get this from? Her fax to Kapoor clearly shows “M.Chase”. And.. they called Kapoor saying it was for anna. KE said she needed to knock out anna not Stern. They called Kapoor and said it was for anna. They talked to an expert and pharmacy that knew it was for anna.


3,228 posted on 11/14/2007 6:41:49 PM PST by nature
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To: Sacajaweau
I know none of us is particularly enamored with Greta now, but she was on O'Reilly tonight, and said that you could bet the prosecutor would be taping the interview with Matt Lauer for later use. She said a prosecutor wanted the suspect to talk in hopes they could get information that traps him..or he trips himself. Greta said for example, when she interviewed him 2 days after his wife's disappearance, he was saying she had left and taken her bikini with her. In his interview with Lauer, he didn't mention this - said she had run off with her boy friend. When questioned by Matt, he said she had not told him she had a boy friend, but he suspected she did. He said her requests for a divorce came after her sister's death and around the time of her menstrual cycle. He was not convincing to me that he had nothing to do with her disappearance!

Do you remember a time when we have had so many people missing and being discovered murdered? The 17 year old boy from Ala. was found murdered in Villa, GA., and another one is missing in Duluth, GA. and one in Charlotte, N.C. plus all the others that have happened before these. It's downright scary! I wonder if we saw expedited trials and severe punishment ala the death penalty that people would think before they committed these atrocities. I do believe we are coddling the criminal and punishing the victim a second time with some of our laws that protect the criminal and do nothing for the victim. I read where one prison was asking for a satellite so they could watch football. The warden said it kept down trouble...well, what's wrong with putting them to work and letting them earn their room and board in prison?

3,229 posted on 11/14/2007 6:50:59 PM PST by PeskyOne
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To: PeskyOne

I was watching his demeanor more than anything. I’d guess that he’s been a witness many, many times. I’d look at him for other cases, too. If he’d murder two wives...he’d murder a girlfriend, too.


3,230 posted on 11/14/2007 7:02:57 PM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: blueplum

No one challenged LB’s testimony on the two week stay.
There is another source, it is in the paternity filings Anna was running from. She sure wasn’t in a hurry to step up and scream false, no methadone. For a false story it seemed to make her run fast and far.

First word out of Sterns camp maybe but not everyone’s mouth was pushing suicide.

Clown video: not sure who you are saying when you say “all”. Many knew anna was a druggie and that video did not shock everyone. Look at all the statments when she died that expected it or surprised she wasn’t dead 10 yrs ago etc. Tragic but no surprise. I think we the private world found more shock in the video because she was pregnant is all.

Shelly is a liar. I don’t pick and chose what to believe from a liar without a reliable source. I remember him saying no drugs then next thing you know, Laurie and Shelly are talking about methadone being dished out that summer or when Shelly put his house staff on all the drugs she took there. Of course he knew. I don’t buy anyone that could be around anna and NOT know she was a drugged up boozer. The wet tshirt incident was SC. Talk of the net at the time and talk of that town. There is no way in heck Shelly / Thompson didn’t know about it.

The paternity battle with ANS alone could and did get LB a top attorney. He didn’t need drugs to get that far. It was already ‘who’s the daddy’ game in gossip columns. Anna hiding it only added to the hype and she knew it would.

Any one that wanted face time could have taken the case. I am surprised LW or Geragos wasn’t front and center except they aren’t into family law. It wasn’t the drug addiction that set LB off. He was off and running way before the methadone was added to the paternity papers. He blew a gasket because Stern (fool) was calling him a liar and stalker. Around May, maybe June LB went public and he wasn’t coughing up the addiction line at the time.

welcome to the land of celeb treatment. Completely different world! Don’t expect some sterile hard rules enviroment. They pamper these buttheads. It was a California hospital, not anything special. Hell, they let drunken high anna and Ray in JHoward’s room on the middle of the night with a video camera. Daniel and Stern were midnight guests with Thompson in the Bahamas. Yes, celeb’s hospital stays do have special ignorance of guest rules all the time. Name me one California hospital that wouldn’t put up with the mouthy anna and her guests. They see that crap all the time. It wasn’t her first drug trip. She was known for being a mess and OD’s especially in CA.

This says methadone was in the filing in Oct 06. LB went public on ‘I’m the father” long before Oct.
The lawsuit contains allegations, untested in a court of law, that Smith is a methadone addict and that her lawyer and boyfriend, Howard K. Stern, has been enabling her habit.

http://www.celebitchy.com/1834/larry_birkhead_claims_anna_nicole_is_addicted_to_methadone_and_that_howards_her_dealer/

Hum, all caps, sounds like you are upset? Why would the search for truth upset you? You may not “CARE” but the evidence doesn’t show he lied. HKS didn’t deny it and he sure could have. Anna was running from it. And not even Moe denied it. I don’t consider “a friend” .. nameless sources for facts. Not that it is important at this stage because we know she had all the methadone she could want. Was that the first script? Did the nameless friend know Kapoor was prescribing it? Does Kapoor go to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center? Was he the prescribing doctor? When did she go on methadone originally? Kapoor had her for some time and before him, the doc at that same clinic. Was the methadone the friend said the hospital prescribed maint meth? She was his patient, he is in LA, she was in LA and Cedar is LA’s celeb friendly hospital. Kapoor is also the one that said “Treatment” was ethical. Overall ‘treatment’ or was he referring to her Cedar ‘treatment’.. or both? Time will tell.

I didn’t see LB’s testimony about the hospital sketchy. Even down to ripping out her IV’s and the IV stand falling or whatever. The babybook incident. She called me a couple days later, where are you, why are you not here and all that stuff. a lot of details I thought. He was too stupid to see the public would turn on him for doing nothing though. All that look how terrible howie is and how wonderful I am.. gone to waster now. :p

Methadone monitored or measured? We don’t know it wasn’t with Stern either. Fact is, she didn’t die from methadone.

Sorry, not clear on the rest of what you are saying.
Howard hunted her down? Howard knew right where she was. He was with her more than not. He was with her in SC in June and in the Bahamas by July. He really wasn’t gone from her sofa for any amount of time. Even stayed at Shelly’s with her according to them when they gave a tour and showed the bedrooms (howard in a separate one LOL )

Ultra sound .. why would ANY dad seeing an ultra sound of HIS baby be bad? Not following ya on that one. I think any Dad short of a rapist has a right to his child, in all stages. I don’t see anything wrong with it. Obviously, IF he was there, anna allowed it. Why believe he was even there and not believe he was at the other hospital? Both could be true or a lie. How can you tell with that jerk?

Globe’s email. That could be anyone or invented. It says publicist. LB isn’t a publicist and no one has ever referred to him as that. Everyone knew even then he was a photographer. Plus, we have seen how ANS lies all the time. For all we know she talked to LB right before this msg .. if it’s her even. Look at her emails to Thompson. She’s a liar! Her words don’t mean a damn thing to me. She lied without any conscience all the time.

I am not into what would my neighbor do. Wouldn’t even be a logical measuring stick if I was. I don’t live in that kind of neighborhood thank God. And I have never lived near a nut celeb, let alone one like Anna! apples and oranges. I don’t know any neighbor that pulls their clothes off in public, has sex orgies with unemployed attorneys, marry men three times their age, want to get pregnant without a dad in the child’s life, OD’s a gazillion times, steals houses etc.

Hollier didn’t say Anna said she was in danger unless I missed something. I can’t see HKS’s buddy saying she was afraid of HKS! After a funeral she made a remark according to him that wouldn’t be unlike a remark many of us might make. Often after funerals people talk about their own wishes or if anything happens to me blah blah. I don’t find that as ahha as some do. AND/OR if we were Stern’s buddy like Hollier is, would claim whatever he wanted .. which wasn’t danger, it was to bury her with Daniel.


3,231 posted on 11/14/2007 8:18:19 PM PST by nature
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To: Jane Austen

This is more prevalent the many realize. sigh
Why, I don’t know. Why do medical boards let doctors kill and walk away? How about the ME in FL that lied about his license, carried someone’s brain home in the trunk of his car! They have him working still to catch up on all the cases he DIDN’T do to get turned in in the first place! Now is that insanity or what?! Goes on all the time. :(

What really pizzes me off is the way media treated him with kid gloves and now CNN giving him a TV spot! Why why are they not going over his double talk with a fine tooth comb? Why simply accept this quack? Another self regulating board that is why! grrrrr

http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/cjst/mec/MEC%20Mtg%20Minutes/MECMin2-3-2005.pdf
read down .. sheriff turns them in and the board says ..naw. no problem just communication gap.
Then when the find Dr Giles in the wrong, a written reprimand was the slap and off ya go.

more
http://www.americanpolitics.com/20030721Baker.html


3,232 posted on 11/14/2007 8:44:09 PM PST by nature
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To: Sacajaweau

Wecht did it? OMG!

He loves criminals. No wonder he said nothing will be found.
She had 10 cuts and bruises plus a lacerated head but original pathologist said it was an accident. Must be a satanic club they join.

“Quite frankly, in terms of coming up with something different or even of a helpful nature regarding the pathologist process is extremely doubtful,” said Dr. Cyril Wecht.

The autopsy of Savio, performed by a Will County corner’s forensic pathologist three weeks after her death, details a 1-inch laceration to her scalp consistent with a blunt trauma, and more than 10 bruises and cuts about her body.

More than three years later, all those injuries would be unidentifiable, Wecht told WBBM.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/13/national/main3493779.shtml


3,233 posted on 11/14/2007 8:53:29 PM PST by nature
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To: Sacajaweau

I thought it might be sick humor from HKS because of the Prince fiasco. But.. wow, never thought about the queen is dead! I think you hit that one right on.


3,234 posted on 11/14/2007 8:56:39 PM PST by nature
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To: Sacajaweau

I think Larry since he has the TMZ connection and they are the ones that broke the Kapoor stories. Who gave them the airbill? That would probably come from Anna’s papers or computer. What a team Lou and Sue are!

Remember Geraldo and Craig chasing down Kapoor? Still no word of KE from either HKS or LB at that time either.

http://judicial-inc.biz/a,Eroshevich...anna_nicole_smith.htm

Perper didn’t release it was her bloody hand on all the scripts until April 4!

Mark was calling her ‘a confidant’ on Feb 9.
ET calling her ‘a friend”.

All in the timing!
March 12 KE never ‘thought suicide’ must be an accident. But ah, same day, Chief Tiger announces new evidence for Perper to check. Darned if March 14, KE MEETS with Perper. What a coincidence. Guess she left her nursing job to become a doc again.


3,235 posted on 11/14/2007 9:26:28 PM PST by nature
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To: Dante3

i believe, the LAS, pertains to those we have treaties with - ie.,, bahamas :)


3,236 posted on 11/15/2007 3:08:35 AM PST by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: Sacajaweau

sure does.....


3,237 posted on 11/15/2007 3:09:34 AM PST by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: SundayGardener

“particularly the section from the specialist who analyzed the TCE TCA concentrations”

there are certain people who inspire me to push further, dig deeper, yell louder - you are one of them

via conDios, Sunday :)


3,238 posted on 11/15/2007 3:43:51 AM PST by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: nature

i have tracked all comments re: icebaths - i am convinced there was more than one - otherwise i wouldn’t be jumping up and down about them -

I’m also convinced that the clownvideo ws the first and the collapsed lung was the second, trial run of deliberately od’ing vicki - but who am i? nobody at all.....just an opinion in the wind....


3,239 posted on 11/15/2007 3:56:56 AM PST by blueplum ( i)
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To: Sacajaweau

as always, you rock!


3,240 posted on 11/15/2007 3:57:49 AM PST by blueplum ( i)
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