No one challenged LB’s testimony on the two week stay.
There is another source, it is in the paternity filings Anna was running from. She sure wasn’t in a hurry to step up and scream false, no methadone. For a false story it seemed to make her run fast and far.
First word out of Sterns camp maybe but not everyone’s mouth was pushing suicide.
Clown video: not sure who you are saying when you say “all”. Many knew anna was a druggie and that video did not shock everyone. Look at all the statments when she died that expected it or surprised she wasn’t dead 10 yrs ago etc. Tragic but no surprise. I think we the private world found more shock in the video because she was pregnant is all.
Shelly is a liar. I don’t pick and chose what to believe from a liar without a reliable source. I remember him saying no drugs then next thing you know, Laurie and Shelly are talking about methadone being dished out that summer or when Shelly put his house staff on all the drugs she took there. Of course he knew. I don’t buy anyone that could be around anna and NOT know she was a drugged up boozer. The wet tshirt incident was SC. Talk of the net at the time and talk of that town. There is no way in heck Shelly / Thompson didn’t know about it.
The paternity battle with ANS alone could and did get LB a top attorney. He didn’t need drugs to get that far. It was already ‘who’s the daddy’ game in gossip columns. Anna hiding it only added to the hype and she knew it would.
Any one that wanted face time could have taken the case. I am surprised LW or Geragos wasn’t front and center except they aren’t into family law. It wasn’t the drug addiction that set LB off. He was off and running way before the methadone was added to the paternity papers. He blew a gasket because Stern (fool) was calling him a liar and stalker. Around May, maybe June LB went public and he wasn’t coughing up the addiction line at the time.
welcome to the land of celeb treatment. Completely different world! Don’t expect some sterile hard rules enviroment. They pamper these buttheads. It was a California hospital, not anything special. Hell, they let drunken high anna and Ray in JHoward’s room on the middle of the night with a video camera. Daniel and Stern were midnight guests with Thompson in the Bahamas. Yes, celeb’s hospital stays do have special ignorance of guest rules all the time. Name me one California hospital that wouldn’t put up with the mouthy anna and her guests. They see that crap all the time. It wasn’t her first drug trip. She was known for being a mess and OD’s especially in CA.
This says methadone was in the filing in Oct 06. LB went public on ‘I’m the father” long before Oct.
The lawsuit contains allegations, untested in a court of law, that Smith is a methadone addict and that her lawyer and boyfriend, Howard K. Stern, has been enabling her habit.
Hum, all caps, sounds like you are upset? Why would the search for truth upset you? You may not “CARE” but the evidence doesn’t show he lied. HKS didn’t deny it and he sure could have. Anna was running from it. And not even Moe denied it. I don’t consider “a friend” .. nameless sources for facts. Not that it is important at this stage because we know she had all the methadone she could want. Was that the first script? Did the nameless friend know Kapoor was prescribing it? Does Kapoor go to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center? Was he the prescribing doctor? When did she go on methadone originally? Kapoor had her for some time and before him, the doc at that same clinic. Was the methadone the friend said the hospital prescribed maint meth? She was his patient, he is in LA, she was in LA and Cedar is LA’s celeb friendly hospital. Kapoor is also the one that said “Treatment” was ethical. Overall ‘treatment’ or was he referring to her Cedar ‘treatment’.. or both? Time will tell.
I didn’t see LB’s testimony about the hospital sketchy. Even down to ripping out her IV’s and the IV stand falling or whatever. The babybook incident. She called me a couple days later, where are you, why are you not here and all that stuff. a lot of details I thought. He was too stupid to see the public would turn on him for doing nothing though. All that look how terrible howie is and how wonderful I am.. gone to waster now. :p
Methadone monitored or measured? We don’t know it wasn’t with Stern either. Fact is, she didn’t die from methadone.
Sorry, not clear on the rest of what you are saying.
Howard hunted her down? Howard knew right where she was. He was with her more than not. He was with her in SC in June and in the Bahamas by July. He really wasn’t gone from her sofa for any amount of time. Even stayed at Shelly’s with her according to them when they gave a tour and showed the bedrooms (howard in a separate one LOL )
Ultra sound .. why would ANY dad seeing an ultra sound of HIS baby be bad? Not following ya on that one. I think any Dad short of a rapist has a right to his child, in all stages. I don’t see anything wrong with it. Obviously, IF he was there, anna allowed it. Why believe he was even there and not believe he was at the other hospital? Both could be true or a lie. How can you tell with that jerk?
Globe’s email. That could be anyone or invented. It says publicist. LB isn’t a publicist and no one has ever referred to him as that. Everyone knew even then he was a photographer. Plus, we have seen how ANS lies all the time. For all we know she talked to LB right before this msg .. if it’s her even. Look at her emails to Thompson. She’s a liar! Her words don’t mean a damn thing to me. She lied without any conscience all the time.
I am not into what would my neighbor do. Wouldn’t even be a logical measuring stick if I was. I don’t live in that kind of neighborhood thank God. And I have never lived near a nut celeb, let alone one like Anna! apples and oranges. I don’t know any neighbor that pulls their clothes off in public, has sex orgies with unemployed attorneys, marry men three times their age, want to get pregnant without a dad in the child’s life, OD’s a gazillion times, steals houses etc.
Hollier didn’t say Anna said she was in danger unless I missed something. I can’t see HKS’s buddy saying she was afraid of HKS! After a funeral she made a remark according to him that wouldn’t be unlike a remark many of us might make. Often after funerals people talk about their own wishes or if anything happens to me blah blah. I don’t find that as ahha as some do. AND/OR if we were Stern’s buddy like Hollier is, would claim whatever he wanted .. which wasn’t danger, it was to bury her with Daniel.
“why would ANY dad seeing an ultra sound of HIS baby be bad?”
date rape, sperm donors, etc
unmarried dads do NOT have the right to dictate to mothers or invade their privacy - they do have the right to seek joint custody/visitation AFTER THE BIRTH- unless, they are sperm donors, date rapers, etc.
we hve to be very careful what we are championing here..
“No one challenged LB’s testimony on the two week stay”
why not? I am.....
“Why would the search for truth upset you? “
it doesnt
“You may not “CARE” but the evidence doesn’t show he lied”
i’m sorry, but the ‘evidence’ shows he lied thru his teeth..moo
“I didn’t see LB’s testimony about the hospital sketchy. Even down to ripping out her IV’s and the IV stand falling or whatever. The babybook incident. She called me a couple days later, where are you, why are you not here and all that stuff. a lot of details I thought. “
i see it as very sketchy, imcomplete and unsubstiantiated by any other source - too long a story - when a simple one would have sufficed...jmo
“The paternity battle with ANS alone could and did get LB a top attorney”
not in my world....top attorneys cost money, only threats of ‘save dannielynn’ would get one to front costs