Posted on 05/13/2007 6:12:10 AM PDT by george76
New Hampshire authorities said yesterday that they will not press charges against a former Marine who stepped into a deadly shooting and killed a 24-year-old high school dropout who had moments earlier fatally shot a police officer.
The former Marine, Gregory W. Floyd, 49, was driving with his son along Route 116 in Franconia on Friday night when he saw Liko Kenney, 24, shoot Franconia Police Corporal Bruce McKay, 48, four times in the torso. After Kenney drove his Toyota Celica over McKay as the officer lay on the ground, Floyd grabbed the officer's service weapon and shot and killed Kenney. . . .
The elder Floyd drove his Tahoe into a spot between McKay and Kenney as a shield and told his son, who is in his late teens, to run to the officer's cruiser and radio for help.
The elder Floyd picked up McKay's gun from the ground and ordered Kenney to drop his weapon. Kenney refused, and Floyd saw Kenney appear to be reloading, Conte said. Floyd then shot and killed Kenney, Conte said. . . .
New Hampshire's attorney general, Kelly A. Ayotte, said Floyd will not face charges because he was justified in using deadly force.
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Greg wasn’t the police officer...he’s the Marine who happened on the scene and killed the perp Kenney. Bruce McKay is the dead officer who apparently had some form of feud with Kenney.
Apparently the police did agree to this arrangement and the officer could have made the request for assistance at the first stop and for some reason refused to at which time the punk drove off.
The uncle didn’t seem to have any venom, “more in sorrow than in anger”. I got the impression that the news crew cornered the guy and he kinda spilled his guts honestly. He gave me the impression that he cared about his nephew, but could believe “the worst” about him.
However, there are a few "bad apples" cops that push the envelope and create a ugly situation.
All my information is based on the article and the officer didn't handle the situation right at all. It sounded like he got pissed and lost his cool.
That got him killed.
Now, you say you were a police officer... tell me... how would you have handled the situation from the start?
First assistance in the area may be long in arriving.
What difference does this make? Kinney pulled out AFTER the police officer refused to called for assistance.
I am “up here” also, CD was a wacko. We have had his type in my town, and the ones I have seen in action do not act they way they do because they have been treated hard. But there is two sides to every story.
Kinney was a hot head and I think the police officer got pissed off and lost his cool. Now we have a tragedy that could have been prevented had it been handled by another unbiased officer...
I look forward ten years to when more of the military have returned to our shores and are running for office, sitting in the Mayor’s seats, teaching in the schools, shooting bad guys, working on the police force, etc. Good for this guy to step in and help.
Its never a good idea to shoot at a cop.
The perp brought this on himself.
Good job Marine.
About 30 years ago, two parolees in Ca. murdered 4 Ca. Highway Patrolmen in a gas station near the Magic Mountain amusement park. A former Marine ran from a coffee shop, grabbed the highway patrolman’s shotgun and attemped to engage the badguys (the highway patrolman had unloaded the shotgun by ejecting the ammo due to a lack of training).
My guess is that the officer knew who he was pulling over before he pulled him over. I have worked rural areas and it doesn’t take long to ID the problem children and what they are driving.
I don’t know about NH, but in my state we could mail the ticket to the guy if needed.
No doubt in my mind Kenney was a punk. His uncle stated that he was, and the key was the sentence by the uncle that stated that Kenney was finally getting his life together, etc. I’ve heard that line many times from the relatives of a criminal killed by police including the relatives of a guy who shot one of my men four times.
As to your nethers, you should learn to take as good as you give first. You forget that YOU opened that can first, which goes to show that your analysis of the event is equally as flawed:
(Your post #23 to me: Or did you pull this information out of your ass?) Touche. I will be at Bruce's memorial service along with hundreds, and my good buddy will be playing the pipes for him.
Any bets you want to make on the numbers turning out for Lito's memorial?
The whole event is a tragedy, but one which would not have happened if Lito had been behind bars where he belonged. The responsibility for that is in the lawyers and judges hands who allowed the feud argument to prevail in Lito's previous pleadings. Maybe jail time would have brought him to his senses, and he would still be alive today.
WRONG “Kinney pulled out AFTER the police officer refused to called for assistance.” Kinney wanted the PO to have another cop, handle the stop. If you follow Kinney’s request you have lost control, you are no longer in-charge. To be more succinct, the badge means you are the boss, after you have established PC, probable cause for the stop.
From you”the officer didn’t handle the situation right at all. It sounded like he got pissed and lost his cool.” This goes back to who is in-charge the cop or?? It is an act to get pissed, if I stand there like a kiss ass wimp, who will think I am not IC. Yea, the PO probably “sounded” pissed off, and you say that got him killed.I suspect the PO dropped his guard, cops get complacent, just as drivers do, and pilots. You you ever been in a drag down fight?
I can’t tell you how I would have handled the situation I was not there. Plus your question is typical of person such as you who second guesses based on newspaper articles, and what you think LE work I all about.
I can only tell you those situations I have been in. One I thing I always did, whether it was a stop for speed, or a situation with higher risk, like a domestic violence call, was self assessment. How could I have done it better and safer? There are no two calls, or stops which are the same. I have stopped the same driver multiple times of a period of years. One thing I never did is treat the driver like we were friends because of the stops. Generally I knew the cop haters, some times dispatch would tell me what the driver had for a record, which helps in making a decision. Of course if there are passengers who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men and women.
I would suggest you go to your local PD and ask if you can ride along, in the day then at night. You will have to sign a release, and like to ride in a car at high speed. Most PD's have this policy, check it out and let me know. Do it more than once. If you can pass the physical, mental, and back ground checks, tell them you are thinking of becoming a cop. Yep there are bad apples and a** H****
megan lane
05-13-2007, 6:42 AM
i think it is disgusting that nobody is thinking of the kenney family. they lost a son and a brother . two people died not one.
that crooked cop harassed that kid. he wanted to ruin his life. i dont know why SOME polce officers get thier jollies off on arresting young people. im sure that that if that cop would of done his job with a little more compassion and feeling for peoples lives, this would not have happened. considering liko was on his way home and almost there.
why didnt he call for another officer. he knew liko was scared of him, and he liked it.
that officer was there to arrest and harass not serve and protect.
liko was a friend of mine and he will be missed. to anyone who didnt know him, i hope you can be more sympathetic than channel 9 news. THERE WERE TWO LIVES LOST. a young man was pushed to the point of breaking by a person who used his athority to push people around.with the loss of one families only son and youngest child, my thougfhts and prayers are with the kenney and miller families.
sincerely,disgusted by the media
Slightly OT, but in response to your “...how I would have handled the situation...” I recall many years ago being pulled over for expired tabs. The cop was using the stop as an excuse to conduct a fishing expedition. I had all of my papers in order and my vehicle was completely legal, except for the tabs which I had just purchased, but hadn’t installed yet.
The cop asked permission to search my truck and I declined. He got insistent, snotty, and belligerent. Funny thing about that “getting the drop” - I had my carry piece in a position where he would have been dead if I was inclined. But I wasn’t inclined. I just wanted my ticket and to go home.
I suggested that perhaps a different officer could complete the stop. That really pissed him off! Curiously, he had the right to bring me out of my vehicle, but never did. Instead he stood outside my door and berated me. After about five minutes (an eternity when you’re under attack) another squad car pulled up.
After a confab the other officer approached me and asked “What’s up?” I explained my predicament, and recited my right to “quiet enjoyment”, and suggested that they just write the ticket and call it a night. Amazingly, he agreed. He went back to the younger cop and had another talk with huim. I could see that he was plainly pissed but wrote out the ticket with an angry flourish and had me sign it (gritting his teeth all the while).
The problem with this stop was that it:
1. Was over nothing.
2. Accomplished nothing worthwhile (I took my new tabs into the judge and he threw out the case).
3. Threatened both of us needlessly (yes, I contemplated my defense options which included killing him - I consciously chose against that course).
4. Left an indelibly bad impression of the police.
Where you live, don’t you have to declare you are CCW licensed? Here, you must show your license, whether you have a gun with you are not.
Not the case in all states
and never mentions a Marine stopped the cold blooded murderer.
Huh. Don’t you think it should be though?
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