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Back when Airbus announced the new breakeven number of 420 last year, I figured the number was probably in excess of 500. I wouldn't be surprised if the real number is over 600 now.
1 posted on 05/05/2007 5:45:59 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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2 posted on 05/05/2007 5:48:29 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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Airbus has currently sold 156 A380s.

And delivered how many?

3 posted on 05/05/2007 5:49:34 AM PDT by FreePaul
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...that the break-even point for the A380 has been raised, but he did not disclose to new figure.

That is bad! It's probably up to 2000 by now!!!!! (notice the typo in the article? "to new figure" not "the new figure")
5 posted on 05/05/2007 5:54:35 AM PDT by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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I don’t really know anything about the topic other than as a rare consumer, but I flew in an Airbus product to Latin America recently and it was my impression that the plane was “lighter” and not “as stiff” as a Boeing product. Is that just my perception?
6 posted on 05/05/2007 5:59:15 AM PDT by wastoute
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A380=pure Eurotrash.


9 posted on 05/05/2007 6:41:13 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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"Sometimes I feel that the competition between the A350 and Boeing's 787 is already lost," said a woman who identified herself as Miriam Lange.

If Boeing doesn't screw the 787 up, she's probably right. Boeing is just so far ahead of Airbus right now on their widebody replacements (787 vs. A350-variation-of-the-week).

Airbus tried to guess the market, and they guessed wrong.

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11 posted on 05/05/2007 6:54:59 AM PDT by Moose4 ("(Rudy's) the exact same animal as Hillary only he wears a dress." --Jim Robinson)
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To: Paleo Conservative

the socialist capitalism model at its finest, just like what mrs. clinton wants to do with the energy companies in this country when she is elected in 2008.


13 posted on 05/05/2007 7:01:02 AM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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In an apparent effort to soothe worker anger, Airbus France said separately Friday that it had proposed a 2.5 percent salary increase and a €500 (US$680) bonus for all employees after a meeting with labor leaders.

Airbus employs 22,000 people in France, but 4,300 of those jobs are slated to be cut.

Shareholders approved a €0.12 (US$0.16) dividend at the meeting, down from €0.65 last year, and a motion allowing the company to issue new shares if need be.

But “we feel a capital increase is not necessary at this time,” Lagardere said. “We feel it’s the worst way” to raise money.

Shares in EADS, which is to publish first-quarter earnings next week, rose 0.5 percent to close at €23.27 ($31.61) in Paris.


14 posted on 05/05/2007 7:07:22 AM PDT by tlb
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I think the A380 will go down in history as one of the biggest business blunders of all time. Certainly the biggest in aviation history.
16 posted on 05/05/2007 7:36:30 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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Betcha the “break even point” is more than they’re ever going to sell.

Wait, then that’s a loss isn’t it?

Trying to make politics and socialism triumpth over the reality of the market just ain’t gonna work Ms. Royal avec fromage.


17 posted on 05/05/2007 7:53:23 AM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now courtesy of Islam.)
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Its probably more like 2,ooo!


18 posted on 05/05/2007 9:06:19 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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Airbus bet big on the A380 and lost.

Now they may never even recover their development costs.

What is far worse for Airbus is that while they have been trying to fix the problems on the A380 they haven't been working on an answer to Boeing's 787, and Boeing doesn't appear to be slowing down to let Airbus catch up.

The future is looking pretty bright for Boeing as long as they can keep up the pace and deliver solid products with continued innovation.

21 posted on 05/05/2007 1:25:35 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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They’ll break even on the 380 eventually, but by then they’ll be in the same hole with yet another albatross.


22 posted on 05/05/2007 8:15:01 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Paleo Conservative

It’s probably more like 1,000+.


24 posted on 05/05/2007 11:47:18 PM PDT by bellevuesbest
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They would have to sell as many 380’s as Boeing has sold 737’s to even approach breakeven and that’s not including all of those generous gifts, oops I mean loans from the generous French and German taxpayers.

And still, I want to see one article that appropriately addresses the wake turbulence issue. Of all of the 380’s failings, and there are many, overweight, wiring doesn’t match up, limited airport access, this is by far the most serious. It means that space between 380’s and all other traffic has to be double the space between a 747 and other traffic. This has to lead to worldwide disruption of air traffic patterns when more than a few of these planes are flying. And yet, everyone is silent on the issue.

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25 posted on 05/06/2007 9:25:58 AM PDT by appeal2 (R)
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Doesn’t matter if its 420, 500 or 600.. they won’t sell 420 of these monstrosity... If they move 250 of them total I’ll be amazed.


26 posted on 05/06/2007 3:30:43 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Meanwhile, SFO continues its fool’s errand of taking its worst-in-the-whole-world baggage handling system, and making it into even more of a cluster_____ in anticipation of 380s flown by Asian carriers. I do not relish the inevitable pain these are going to cause. To boot, our envirowackos nixed the plan to build a new more separated twin runway so now, when one of these whales lands, it will cause a stack up. Neat, eh?


27 posted on 05/07/2007 10:20:47 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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Of course, Airbus doesn’t have to repay ANY of their A380 loans unless it turns a profit, from what I understand.

In other words, Airbus gambled on the A380 and won’t have to pay a price for their failure, because they’ll never have to pay those loans back.


32 posted on 05/09/2007 1:21:56 PM PDT by eraser2005
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